[sudoroom] A call to hackers everywhere

[Andrew]

I think they are saying that they are taking credit for this:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/11/romneys-fail-whale-orca-the-votetracker-149098.html



On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco at gmail.com>wrote:

> Relatedly, anyone know what this is about?
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/113370393/Anon-Rove-Letter
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:22 AM, bandit <bandit at cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> A college classmate of mine is professionally involved with this issue.
>>
>> A main stumbling block is each state has its own set of laws on these
>> machines. There would either need to be 50 types (well, mainly 50 code
>> bases), or a commonality of the law.
>>
>> I am waiting for Ohio to vote for Mickey Mouse for president - 100%,
>> except one vote for Goofy. *that* would get the media's attention.
>>
>> Success on your hackerspace with the new digs!
>>
>> ... bandit (of Quelab.net)
>>
>>
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Dmt2_QioI
>> >
>> > Venezuela uses an electronic device, prints a receipt and counts twice.
>> >
>> > It can be done, at least Jimmy Carter thinks so.
>> >
>> > But hey, we ain't no Nuclear Scientists, right?
>> >
>> > ;)
>> >
>> > On 11/15/12, Eddan Katz <eddan at eddan.com> wrote:
>> >> Foul play has a long history in elections, and with paper too. But
>> >> that's a
>> >> different point.
>> >>
>> >> Do you think the voter should receive the paper receipt or that a paper
>> >> receipt is printed out but kept at the voting location. If kept at the
>> >> location, should the voter be able to review the printed copy before it
>> >> is
>> >> dropped into whatever box or container holds the paper trail votes?
>> >>
>> >> I learned that this turns out to be a crucial question for the blind
>> >> advocates for voting rights, for whom electronic voting machines make
>> it
>> >> possible for them to vote for the first time in private and without any
>> >> assistance. This issue in fact caused a major rift between traditional
>> >> voting rights advocates and the digital rights community that I think
>> is
>> >> still yet to be repaired. Only after intensive coalition building
>> >> efforts
>> >> did groups like the NAACP, traditionally concerned about voting rights,
>> >> finally came around to the digital rights criticism of EVMs.
>> >>
>> >> I would be interested in trying to work out a more nuanced position
>> that
>> >> can
>> >> satisfy both the computer scientists and the blind community concerns.
>> >> That
>> >> seems like a very worthwhile Sudo Room project to me.
>> >>
>> >> -Eddan
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> IMO, voting should not be done with out a paper trail. Preferably by
>> >>> hand.
>> >>> It's not that hard to color in little bubbles that a computer can
>> read.
>> >>> If
>> >>> the ballots are unclear, then they should be redesigned. If some
>> >>> portion
>> >>> are unreadable by computer, they can be analyzed by humans.
>> >>>
>> >>> It's way too important of a process to be handled by the easily
>> >>> hackable,
>> >>> untested machines, made by members of one party or another. If there
>> is
>> >>> foul play in a paper election, at least there is clear evidence (or
>> >>> evidence of destruction of evidence) to fall back on. With an
>> >>> electronic
>> >>> ballot, there is nothing.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Jehan
>> >>
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>>
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>> - Mission-Critical embedded systems
>> - device drivers
>> - control and data acquisition systems
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