I think they are saying that they are taking credit for this:<br><br><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/11/romneys-fail-whale-orca-the-votetracker-149098.html">http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/11/romneys-fail-whale-orca-the-votetracker-149098.html</a><br>
<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Anthony Di Franco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:di.franco@gmail.com" target="_blank">di.franco@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face="arial narrow,sans-serif">Relatedly, anyone know what this is about?</font><div><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/113370393/Anon-Rove-Letter" target="_blank">http://www.scribd.com/doc/113370393/Anon-Rove-Letter</a><font face="arial narrow,sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:22 AM, bandit <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bandit@cruzio.com" target="_blank">bandit@cruzio.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">A college classmate of mine is professionally involved with this issue.<br>
<br>
A main stumbling block is each state has its own set of laws on these<br>
machines. There would either need to be 50 types (well, mainly 50 code<br>
bases), or a commonality of the law.<br>
<br>
I am waiting for Ohio to vote for Mickey Mouse for president - 100%,<br>
except one vote for Goofy. *that* would get the media's attention.<br>
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> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Dmt2_QioI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Dmt2_QioI</a><br>
><br>
> Venezuela uses an electronic device, prints a receipt and counts twice.<br>
><br>
> It can be done, at least Jimmy Carter thinks so.<br>
><br>
> But hey, we ain't no Nuclear Scientists, right?<br>
><br>
> ;)<br>
><br>
> On 11/15/12, Eddan Katz <<a href="mailto:eddan@eddan.com" target="_blank">eddan@eddan.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Foul play has a long history in elections, and with paper too. But<br>
>> that's a<br>
>> different point.<br>
>><br>
>> Do you think the voter should receive the paper receipt or that a paper<br>
>> receipt is printed out but kept at the voting location. If kept at the<br>
>> location, should the voter be able to review the printed copy before it<br>
>> is<br>
>> dropped into whatever box or container holds the paper trail votes?<br>
>><br>
>> I learned that this turns out to be a crucial question for the blind<br>
>> advocates for voting rights, for whom electronic voting machines make it<br>
>> possible for them to vote for the first time in private and without any<br>
>> assistance. This issue in fact caused a major rift between traditional<br>
>> voting rights advocates and the digital rights community that I think is<br>
>> still yet to be repaired. Only after intensive coalition building<br>
>> efforts<br>
>> did groups like the NAACP, traditionally concerned about voting rights,<br>
>> finally came around to the digital rights criticism of EVMs.<br>
>><br>
>> I would be interested in trying to work out a more nuanced position that<br>
>> can<br>
>> satisfy both the computer scientists and the blind community concerns.<br>
>> That<br>
>> seems like a very worthwhile Sudo Room project to me.<br>
>><br>
>> -Eddan<br>
>><br>
>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Jehan Tremback <<a href="mailto:jehan.tremback@gmail.com" target="_blank">jehan.tremback@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> IMO, voting should not be done with out a paper trail. Preferably by<br>
>>> hand.<br>
>>> It's not that hard to color in little bubbles that a computer can read.<br>
>>> If<br>
>>> the ballots are unclear, then they should be redesigned. If some<br>
>>> portion<br>
>>> are unreadable by computer, they can be analyzed by humans.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It's way too important of a process to be handled by the easily<br>
>>> hackable,<br>
>>> untested machines, made by members of one party or another. If there is<br>
>>> foul play in a paper election, at least there is clear evidence (or<br>
>>> evidence of destruction of evidence) to fall back on. With an<br>
>>> electronic<br>
>>> ballot, there is nothing.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Jehan<br>
>><br>
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