[sudoroom] A call to hackers everywhere

Anthony Di Franco di.franco at gmail.com
Fri Nov 16 23:13:36 CET 2012


Relatedly, anyone know what this is about?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/113370393/Anon-Rove-Letter


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:22 AM, bandit <bandit at cruzio.com> wrote:

> A college classmate of mine is professionally involved with this issue.
>
> A main stumbling block is each state has its own set of laws on these
> machines. There would either need to be 50 types (well, mainly 50 code
> bases), or a commonality of the law.
>
> I am waiting for Ohio to vote for Mickey Mouse for president - 100%,
> except one vote for Goofy. *that* would get the media's attention.
>
> Success on your hackerspace with the new digs!
>
> ... bandit (of Quelab.net)
>
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Dmt2_QioI
> >
> > Venezuela uses an electronic device, prints a receipt and counts twice.
> >
> > It can be done, at least Jimmy Carter thinks so.
> >
> > But hey, we ain't no Nuclear Scientists, right?
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > On 11/15/12, Eddan Katz <eddan at eddan.com> wrote:
> >> Foul play has a long history in elections, and with paper too. But
> >> that's a
> >> different point.
> >>
> >> Do you think the voter should receive the paper receipt or that a paper
> >> receipt is printed out but kept at the voting location. If kept at the
> >> location, should the voter be able to review the printed copy before it
> >> is
> >> dropped into whatever box or container holds the paper trail votes?
> >>
> >> I learned that this turns out to be a crucial question for the blind
> >> advocates for voting rights, for whom electronic voting machines make it
> >> possible for them to vote for the first time in private and without any
> >> assistance. This issue in fact caused a major rift between traditional
> >> voting rights advocates and the digital rights community that I think is
> >> still yet to be repaired. Only after intensive coalition building
> >> efforts
> >> did groups like the NAACP, traditionally concerned about voting rights,
> >> finally came around to the digital rights criticism of EVMs.
> >>
> >> I would be interested in trying to work out a more nuanced position that
> >> can
> >> satisfy both the computer scientists and the blind community concerns.
> >> That
> >> seems like a very worthwhile Sudo Room project to me.
> >>
> >> -Eddan
> >>
> >> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> IMO, voting should not be done with out a paper trail. Preferably by
> >>> hand.
> >>> It's not that hard to color in little bubbles that a computer can read.
> >>> If
> >>> the ballots are unclear, then they should be redesigned. If some
> >>> portion
> >>> are unreadable by computer, they can be analyzed by humans.
> >>>
> >>> It's way too important of a process to be handled by the easily
> >>> hackable,
> >>> untested machines, made by members of one party or another. If there is
> >>> foul play in a paper election, at least there is clear evidence (or
> >>> evidence of destruction of evidence) to fall back on. With an
> >>> electronic
> >>> ballot, there is nothing.
> >>>
> >>> -Jehan
> >>
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>
> I am a systems engineer, specializing in:
> - Mission-Critical embedded systems
> - device drivers
> - control and data acquisition systems
> My stuff *works* - *all the time*.
>
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