[sudoroom] A call to hackers everywhere

bandit bandit at cruzio.com
Fri Nov 16 18:22:45 CET 2012


A college classmate of mine is professionally involved with this issue.

A main stumbling block is each state has its own set of laws on these
machines. There would either need to be 50 types (well, mainly 50 code
bases), or a commonality of the law.

I am waiting for Ohio to vote for Mickey Mouse for president - 100%,
except one vote for Goofy. *that* would get the media's attention.

Success on your hackerspace with the new digs!

... bandit (of Quelab.net)


> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Dmt2_QioI
>
> Venezuela uses an electronic device, prints a receipt and counts twice.
>
> It can be done, at least Jimmy Carter thinks so.
>
> But hey, we ain't no Nuclear Scientists, right?
>
> ;)
>
> On 11/15/12, Eddan Katz <eddan at eddan.com> wrote:
>> Foul play has a long history in elections, and with paper too. But
>> that's a
>> different point.
>>
>> Do you think the voter should receive the paper receipt or that a paper
>> receipt is printed out but kept at the voting location. If kept at the
>> location, should the voter be able to review the printed copy before it
>> is
>> dropped into whatever box or container holds the paper trail votes?
>>
>> I learned that this turns out to be a crucial question for the blind
>> advocates for voting rights, for whom electronic voting machines make it
>> possible for them to vote for the first time in private and without any
>> assistance. This issue in fact caused a major rift between traditional
>> voting rights advocates and the digital rights community that I think is
>> still yet to be repaired. Only after intensive coalition building
>> efforts
>> did groups like the NAACP, traditionally concerned about voting rights,
>> finally came around to the digital rights criticism of EVMs.
>>
>> I would be interested in trying to work out a more nuanced position that
>> can
>> satisfy both the computer scientists and the blind community concerns.
>> That
>> seems like a very worthwhile Sudo Room project to me.
>>
>> -Eddan
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IMO, voting should not be done with out a paper trail. Preferably by
>>> hand.
>>> It's not that hard to color in little bubbles that a computer can read.
>>> If
>>> the ballots are unclear, then they should be redesigned. If some
>>> portion
>>> are unreadable by computer, they can be analyzed by humans.
>>>
>>> It's way too important of a process to be handled by the easily
>>> hackable,
>>> untested machines, made by members of one party or another. If there is
>>> foul play in a paper election, at least there is clear evidence (or
>>> evidence of destruction of evidence) to fall back on. With an
>>> electronic
>>> ballot, there is nothing.
>>>
>>> -Jehan
>>
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