[SpaceProgram] Underwater laboratory for Space exploration

[Jerry Isdale]

Thanks J & Matt for the references.
Mach30 is an excellent source of information on 501(c)3, ITAR and other stuff. 
This is not surprising as our goals are very closely aligned... and J is one of the founders of Dayton Diode (Ohio USA hackerspace).  I expect to see lots of collaboration as we go forward.

Jerry Isdale
http://MauiMakers.com
http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/

On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Matt Joyce wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann
> 
> Probably the most famous ITAR case in tech.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, jrs <jrs at mach30.org> wrote:
> This is J. Simmons from Mach 30 (http://mach30.org/).  To answer the question about fines and jail time for ITAR violations, check out this part of the Wikipedia article to get an idea of how far the US government will go to enforce it.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations#Enforcement 
> 
> For more info, check out the Annotated ITAR (http://www.ndia.org/Resources/ExportImportComplianceResources/Pages/AnnotatedITAR.aspx).  And you can see Mach 30's strategy for dealing with ITAR here (http://mach30.org/2011/10/25/what-about-itar/).  As a side note, the idea of developing technology for an alternate use case like underwater habitats is very much in line with some of our thinking.
> 
>  -J
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, David <ainut at hiwaay.net> wrote:
> Um, how can that be?  Has it happened to you?
> 
> 
> David M.
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> 
> Jerry Isdale wrote:
>> Underwater systems are also not so readily covered under ITAR - that is USA residents can talk about the technical details on public forums, conferences, etc. Discussions of tech for space itself (eg rockets, guidance, launch etc) will quickly attract attention of US Dept of State and can result in big fines and jail time.
>> 
>> Jerry Isdale
>> http://MauiMakers.com
>> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Paul Szymkowiak wrote:
>> 
>>> > This got me to thinking about HSP supporting underwater habitats, education and research. 
>>> 
>>> +1 from me. I think that's a great way to engage the earth-bound community, and a great way to trial aspects of space-bound research prior to deployment in space.
>>> 
>>> > a neighbor who mentioned noticing my participation in the OpenROV project
>>> 
>>>  Great to see the KickStarter was funded so well!
>>> 
>>>    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/openrov/openrov-the-open-source-underwater-robot?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul
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