[SpaceProgram] Underwater laboratory for Space exploration

[jrs]

It was my pleasure.  And I am looking forward to working together.

 -J

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Jerry Isdale <jerry at mauimakers.com> wrote:

> Thanks J & Matt for the references.
> Mach30 is an excellent source of information on 501(c)3, ITAR and other
> stuff.
> This is not surprising as our goals are very closely aligned... and J is
> one of the founders of Dayton Diode (Ohio USA hackerspace).  I expect to
> see lots of collaboration as we go forward.
>
> Jerry Isdale
> http://MauiMakers.com
> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Matt Joyce wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann
>
> Probably the most famous ITAR case in tech.
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, jrs <jrs at mach30.org> wrote:
>
>> This is J. Simmons from Mach 30 (http://mach30.org/).  To answer the
>> question about fines and jail time for ITAR violations, check out this part
>> of the Wikipedia article to get an idea of how far the US government will
>> go to enforce it.
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations#Enforcement
>>
>>
>> For more info, check out the Annotated ITAR (
>> http://www.ndia.org/Resources/ExportImportComplianceResources/Pages/AnnotatedITAR.aspx).
>>  And you can see Mach 30's strategy for dealing with ITAR here (
>> http://mach30.org/2011/10/25/what-about-itar/).  As a side note, the
>> idea of developing technology for an alternate use case like underwater
>> habitats is very much in line with some of our thinking.
>>
>>  -J
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, David <ainut at hiwaay.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  Um, how can that be?  Has it happened to you?
>>>
>>>
>>> David M.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry Isdale wrote:
>>>
>>> Underwater systems are also not so readily covered under ITAR - that is
>>> USA residents can talk about the technical details on public forums,
>>> conferences, etc. Discussions of tech for space itself (eg rockets,
>>> guidance, launch etc) will quickly attract attention of US Dept of State
>>> and can result in big fines and jail time.
>>>
>>>   Jerry Isdale
>>> http://MauiMakers.com
>>> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>>>
>>>  On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Paul Szymkowiak wrote:
>>>
>>> > This got me to thinking about HSP supporting underwater habitats,
>>> education and research.
>>>
>>>  +1 from me. I think that's a great way to engage the earth-bound
>>> community, and a great way to trial aspects of space-bound research prior
>>> to deployment in space.
>>>
>>>  > a neighbor who mentioned noticing my participation in the OpenROV
>>> project
>>>
>>>   Great to see the KickStarter was funded so well!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/openrov/openrov-the-open-source-underwater-robot?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
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