[SpaceProgram] Underwater laboratory for Space exploration

[Matt Joyce]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Zimmermann

Probably the most famous ITAR case in tech.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, jrs <jrs at mach30.org> wrote:

> This is J. Simmons from Mach 30 (http://mach30.org/).  To answer the
> question about fines and jail time for ITAR violations, check out this part
> of the Wikipedia article to get an idea of how far the US government will
> go to enforce it.
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations#Enforcement
>
>
> For more info, check out the Annotated ITAR (
> http://www.ndia.org/Resources/ExportImportComplianceResources/Pages/AnnotatedITAR.aspx).
>  And you can see Mach 30's strategy for dealing with ITAR here (
> http://mach30.org/2011/10/25/what-about-itar/).  As a side note, the idea
> of developing technology for an alternate use case like underwater habitats
> is very much in line with some of our thinking.
>
>  -J
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM, David <ainut at hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
>>  Um, how can that be?  Has it happened to you?
>>
>>
>> David M.
>>
>>
>> Jerry Isdale wrote:
>>
>> Underwater systems are also not so readily covered under ITAR - that is
>> USA residents can talk about the technical details on public forums,
>> conferences, etc. Discussions of tech for space itself (eg rockets,
>> guidance, launch etc) will quickly attract attention of US Dept of State
>> and can result in big fines and jail time.
>>
>>   Jerry Isdale
>> http://MauiMakers.com
>> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>>
>>  On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Paul Szymkowiak wrote:
>>
>> > This got me to thinking about HSP supporting underwater habitats,
>> education and research.
>>
>>  +1 from me. I think that's a great way to engage the earth-bound
>> community, and a great way to trial aspects of space-bound research prior
>> to deployment in space.
>>
>>  > a neighbor who mentioned noticing my participation in the OpenROV
>> project
>>
>>   Great to see the KickStarter was funded so well!
>>
>>
>> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/openrov/openrov-the-open-source-underwater-robot?
>>
>>
>>  Paul
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