[hackerspaces] Hackerspace and hackerspace

Matt Joyce matt at nycresistor.com
Mon Mar 19 22:59:48 CET 2018

Pretty sure your attempts to tie hacking to activism are as hilarious now
as they were in the 80s.

Except when they weren't funny at all and good people died.

Some of us have no desire for that unpleasantness and will not seek it
out.  Thanks.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:32 PM, . <whipboi at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Kind of missing the point, but with a screed like that it's to be expected.
> You know, I never realized how silly it was to refer to someone from a
> given country by a generalized ideal until I was in a transportation museum
> in Switzerland. There was a placard below a model of a Sputnik satellite
> referring to John Glenn as a "capitalist" and Yuri Gagarin as a
> "communist". They were austronauts risking their lives exploring space, but
> on paper they were nothing more than an ideal. Makes no sense what-so-ever. They
> were two dudes doing the same thing and working hard to succeed.
> -boi
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Discuss <discuss-bounces+whipboi=hotma
> il.com at lists.hackerspaces.org> on behalf of David Potocnik <
> david.potocnik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 3:25 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [hackerspaces] Hackerspace and hackerspace
> "First and foremost, some bitches need to get over the fact that
> hackerspaces attract mostly male/white/IT careered/capitalist types."
> "Anyway, we spent our youths avoiding being picked on and beat up as
> much as possible. We are geeks and outcasts by virtue of the fact that
> society rejected us at a young age."
> Even though you and your colleagues in USA space X might truly be
> "capitalist types" who used to get bullied as kids, and now want to
> (not unlike "The Mentor") extend this resentimentality as the defining
> attribute of the hackerspaces movement -- yeah, I'll pass.
> I'd warrant that the CCC, biggest and eldest hackerspace scene
> umbrella, did not spring from bullied capitalist geeks. So didn't the
> European "hacklabs" of early 90s. The idea has been to explore the
> technology for activist goals.
> Ciao
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