<div dir="ltr">Pretty sure your attempts to tie hacking to activism are as hilarious now as they were in the 80s.<div><br></div><div>Except when they weren't funny at all and good people died.</div><div><br></div><div>Some of us have no desire for that unpleasantness and will not seek it out. Thanks.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:32 PM, . <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:whipboi@hotmail.com" target="_blank">whipboi@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">You know, I never realized how silly it was to refer to someone from a given country by a generalized ideal until I was in a transportation museum in Switzerland. There was a placard below a model of a Sputnik satellite
referring to John Glenn as a "capitalist" and Yuri Gagarin as a "communist". They were austronauts risking their lives exploring space, but on paper they were nothing more than an ideal. Makes no sense what-so-ever. <span style="font-size:12pt">They were
two dudes doing the same thing and working hard to succeed. </span></p>
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<div class="m_-47121849772200247PlainText">"First and foremost, some bitches need to get over the fact that<br>
hackerspaces attract mostly male/white/IT careered/capitalist types."<br>
"Anyway, we spent our youths avoiding being picked on and beat up as<br>
much as possible. We are geeks and outcasts by virtue of the fact that<br>
society rejected us at a young age."<br>
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Even though you and your colleagues in USA space X might truly be<br>
"capitalist types" who used to get bullied as kids, and now want to<br>
(not unlike "The Mentor") extend this resentimentality as the defining<br>
attribute of the hackerspaces movement -- yeah, I'll pass.<br>
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I'd warrant that the CCC, biggest and eldest hackerspace scene<br>
umbrella, did not spring from bullied capitalist geeks. So didn't the<br>
European "hacklabs" of early 90s. The idea has been to explore the<br>
technology for activist goals.<br>
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