[hackerspaces] Fwd: Vaping in Spaces?

[Tim Krabec]

Why is there such a big discussion about this.  Talk to your local members,
figure out what is right for YOUR space, then put in some rules, look at
them in few months to a year and see if it still makes sense.  Then be
polite to visitors who may not know your policy.  If your visiting a space,
ask what their rules are.



Tim Krabec
tkrabec.com
Bio <http://timkrabec.brandyourself.com/>


On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM, matt <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:

> Uhm...   do people allow people into their space who haven't bathed?  That
> seems insane.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Volatile Compound <
> volatilecompound at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If we're banning things based on smells, then the only logical thing to
>> do is also adopt a policy requiring everyone to take a shower (with
>> soap) before coming over to the hackerspace in addition to brushing
>> their teeth.  Also, no farting in the hackerspace.  And for fuck's sake,
>> WIPE PROPERLY.  It's 102 degrees out there today, but even if it was 40
>> below that's still no excuse.
>>
>> - skroo.
>>
>> On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, JB Zurn wrote:
>> > Note: It simplifies the discussion immensely if we focus on the facts.
>> > It smells. Some people are bothered by smells.
>> >
>> > If I habitually brought my favorite liverwurst and onion sandwiches into
>> > the hackerspace, I'd get complaints too.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Matthew McCabe <matt at mrmccabe.com
>> > <mailto:matt at mrmccabe.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Warning: trolls ahead, use caution
>> >
>> >     On Oct 8, 2014 11:38 AM, "John Q. Hacker" <
>> dreamingforward at gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:dreamingforward at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Matthew McCabe
>> >         <matt at mrmccabe.com <mailto:matt at mrmccabe.com>> wrote:
>> >         > There is no documented medical evidence showing that vaping
>> >         leads to any
>> >         > kind of harm to the person using the vaporizer or people
>> >         inhaling the vapor
>> >         > 2nd hand.  (If you have some links to peer reviewed medical
>> >         journals, I
>> >         > would love to read them.)
>> >
>> >         The speaker above is a Matrix construct for the e-cig
>> industry.  "No
>> >         evidence that vaping leads to any kind of harm" is that EXACT
>> same
>> >         argument Philip J. Morris and companies used to get out of any
>> >         liability of lung cancer for promoting cigarettes ("There is no
>> >         medical evidence that cigarettes cause lung cancer.").
>> >
>> >         Just in case you missed the fallacy:  no evidence against (P ->
>> >         Q) is
>> >         not the same as ~Q, given P.  Q being some bad consequence of
>> >         vaping,
>> >         and P being vaping itself.  The rest of his diatribe is purely
>> >         made to
>> >         gain your trust ("I have a hackerspace ATX", "Be sure to check
>> your
>> >         local laws", etc.)
>> >
>> >         Logic-is-good,  evil is bad.  Get clued-in and follow the
>> >         OneTruePath.
>> >
>> >         Marxos
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