<div dir="ltr">Why is there such a big discussion about this. Talk to your local members, figure out what is right for YOUR space, then put in some rules, look at them in few months to a year and see if it still makes sense. Then be polite to visitors who may not know your policy. If your visiting a space, ask what their rules are. <div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Tim Krabec<br><a href="http://tkrabec.com" target="_blank">tkrabec.com</a><br></div><div><a href="http://timkrabec.brandyourself.com/" target="_blank">Bio</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:12 PM, matt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Uhm... do people allow people into their space who haven't bathed? That seems insane.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Volatile Compound <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:volatilecompound@gmail.com" target="_blank">volatilecompound@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If we're banning things based on smells, then the only logical thing to<br>
do is also adopt a policy requiring everyone to take a shower (with<br>
soap) before coming over to the hackerspace in addition to brushing<br>
their teeth. Also, no farting in the hackerspace. And for fuck's sake,<br>
WIPE PROPERLY. It's 102 degrees out there today, but even if it was 40<br>
below that's still no excuse.<br>
<br>
- skroo.<br>
<span><br>
On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, JB Zurn wrote:<br>
> Note: It simplifies the discussion immensely if we focus on the facts.<br>
> It smells. Some people are bothered by smells.<br>
><br>
> If I habitually brought my favorite liverwurst and onion sandwiches into<br>
> the hackerspace, I'd get complaints too.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Matthew McCabe <<a href="mailto:matt@mrmccabe.com" target="_blank">matt@mrmccabe.com</a><br>
</span><span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matt@mrmccabe.com" target="_blank">matt@mrmccabe.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Warning: trolls ahead, use caution<br>
><br>
> On Oct 8, 2014 11:38 AM, "John Q. Hacker" <<a href="mailto:dreamingforward@gmail.com" target="_blank">dreamingforward@gmail.com</a><br>
</span><span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dreamingforward@gmail.com" target="_blank">dreamingforward@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Matthew McCabe<br>
</span><div><div>> <<a href="mailto:matt@mrmccabe.com" target="_blank">matt@mrmccabe.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:matt@mrmccabe.com" target="_blank">matt@mrmccabe.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > There is no documented medical evidence showing that vaping<br>
> leads to any<br>
> > kind of harm to the person using the vaporizer or people<br>
> inhaling the vapor<br>
> > 2nd hand. (If you have some links to peer reviewed medical<br>
> journals, I<br>
> > would love to read them.)<br>
><br>
> The speaker above is a Matrix construct for the e-cig industry. "No<br>
> evidence that vaping leads to any kind of harm" is that EXACT same<br>
> argument Philip J. Morris and companies used to get out of any<br>
> liability of lung cancer for promoting cigarettes ("There is no<br>
> medical evidence that cigarettes cause lung cancer.").<br>
><br>
> Just in case you missed the fallacy: no evidence against (P -><br>
> Q) is<br>
> not the same as ~Q, given P. Q being some bad consequence of<br>
> vaping,<br>
> and P being vaping itself. The rest of his diatribe is purely<br>
> made to<br>
> gain your trust ("I have a hackerspace ATX", "Be sure to check your<br>
> local laws", etc.)<br>
><br>
> Logic-is-good, evil is bad. Get clued-in and follow the<br>
> OneTruePath.<br>
><br>
> Marxos<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Discuss mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
</div></div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>><br>
<span>> <a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Discuss mailing list<br>
</span>> <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a>><br>
<div><div>> <a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Discuss mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
Discuss mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org">Discuss@lists.hackerspaces.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank">http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>