[hackerspaces] Abuse Of Power

j. grenzfurthner/monochrom (das ende der nahrungskette) jg at monochrom.at
Sat Apr 13 18:21:48 CEST 2013



On 13.04.2013, at 18:03, Paul Bohm <bohmps at gmail.com> wrote:

> Astera,
> 
> I've had two people who were doing core work on the site complain about you removing their access without consulting anyone. You don't have that authority. 
> 
> And I remember very well that night at CCC Congress 2008, where you told me how much you enjoyed the attention you get, because you've set things up in such a way that they have to go through you to accomplish things. I told you back then that's at odds with a philosophy of participation.
> 
> I am not actively maintaining the site right now, but I am unhappy that it has been so badly maintained that people regularly email me offering money to fix things like the broken pagination.
> 
> I'll stay out of this as much as possible, but I'll do what I can do empower people to actual repair the site and build upon it. There's a lot of people (like Eric) who use the site on an almost daily basis, so it needs to work.
> 
> </soap>
> 
> -Enki
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:56 AM, astera <astera at hackerspaces.org> wrote:
>> Dear Paul,
>> 
>> I got a couple alerts while I was at a conference in Amsterdam, and
>> two emails about broken parts, and after taking a look and seeing
>> someone unknown access my server and have root privs as I got back, I
>> sent an email to the tech@ mailing list and removed sudoers access
>> until I got a statement from fh. His account's access was restored
>> within minutes after his reply. As I would like to know who gives
>> access to whom on my servers, I would've very much hoped to get
>> informed by you about this previously, personally or via the tech@
>> mailinglist - because that's what it's there for. No, I do not rejoice
>> in alerts while I'm away that leave me clueless about why they were
>> generated, as I'm sure you would not, either.
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Paul Bohm <bohmps at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > While we're almost done with this, the site got spammed heavily again. Flo
>> > asked me if he could step in, and I said - well, the site is being spammed.
>> > He fixed it
>> 
>> Well, actually no. I tried something else today as the StopForumSpam
>> integration doesn't work any more, and we'll see how that goes.
>> 
>> > and also deployed the fixes that will make pagination work again
>> 
>> Which I am more than thankful for, and that's also what I wrote to fh.
>> 
>> > but she seems to have gotten
>> > angry at FH and removed his and my access. At some point she said "you have
>> > access again, enki not".
>> 
>> Enki, you have access, as does fh, but until you learn to use the
>> tech@ mailing list to at least have the gracefulness to let me know
>> that you've asked someone else to fix something and give him root, I
>> do not see how I can trust you with such privileges.
>> 
>> > This isn't the first such story I've heard. Eric Michaud (who wrote a
>> > sizable up to half of the stories at (http://blog.hackerspaces.org/) also
>> > told me she removed his access much earlier for power struggle reasons.
>> > (Eric is in cc)
>> 
>> I have never before deliberately removed someone from sudoers. We
>> have, however, migrated the wiki twice and home directories weren't
>> always fully restored on new servers. As with every other bug that's
>> brought to the tech@ mailinglist's attention, an email from Eric
>> explaining he needs access would've sufficed.
>> 
>> > it's not cool to sabotage others who actually do the
>> > work, when you've let the site languish for years.
>> 
>> I am not sabotaging anything. Without going down the same accusational
>> path you have, I'd like to point out that letting something languish
>> does not involve caring for the hardware, backups, fixing small bugs,
>> or helping people with questions or access to data for their projects.
>> 
>> > Sorry to put the laundry out in the open, but this just isn't a way to deal
>> > with people.
>> 
>> Exactly.
>> 
>> Hack on,
>> /astera
>> 
>> PS: I will not spam the lists included in /cc any further by replying
>> to this thread.
> 
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