<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body dir="auto"><div><img src="cid:F3FD7DC6-CCA7-4F76-A539-675E8A8368BD" alt="image.jpeg" id="F3FD7DC6-CCA7-4F76-A539-675E8A8368BD"><br></div><div><br>On 13.04.2013, at 18:03, Paul Bohm <<a href="mailto:bohmps@gmail.com">bohmps@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Astera,<div><br></div><div>I've had two people who were doing core work on the site complain about you removing their access without consulting anyone. You don't have that authority. </div><div><br></div>
<div>And I remember very well that night at CCC Congress 2008, where you told me how much you enjoyed the attention you get, because you've set things up in such a way that they have to go through you to accomplish things. I told you back then that's at odds with a philosophy of participation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am not actively maintaining the site right now, but I am unhappy that it has been so badly maintained that people regularly email me offering money to fix things like the broken pagination.</div><div>
<br></div><div style="">I'll stay out of this as much as possible, but I'll do what I can do empower people to actual repair the site and build upon it. There's a lot of people (like Eric) who use the site on an almost daily basis, so it needs to work.<br>
<br></div><div style=""></soap></div><div><br></div><div style="">-Enki</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:56 AM, astera <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:astera@hackerspaces.org" target="_blank">astera@hackerspaces.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Paul,<br>
<br>
I got a couple alerts while I was at a conference in Amsterdam, and<br>
two emails about broken parts, and after taking a look and seeing<br>
someone unknown access my server and have root privs as I got back, I<br>
sent an email to the tech@ mailing list and removed sudoers access<br>
until I got a statement from fh. His account's access was restored<br>
within minutes after his reply. As I would like to know who gives<br>
access to whom on my servers, I would've very much hoped to get<br>
informed by you about this previously, personally or via the tech@<br>
mailinglist - because that's what it's there for. No, I do not rejoice<br>
in alerts while I'm away that leave me clueless about why they were<br>
generated, as I'm sure you would not, either.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Paul Bohm <<a href="mailto:bohmps@gmail.com">bohmps@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> While we're almost done with this, the site got spammed heavily again. Flo<br>
> asked me if he could step in, and I said - well, the site is being spammed.<br>
> He fixed it<br>
<br>
</div>Well, actually no. I tried something else today as the StopForumSpam<br>
integration doesn't work any more, and we'll see how that goes.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> and also deployed the fixes that will make pagination work again<br>
<br>
</div>Which I am more than thankful for, and that's also what I wrote to fh.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> but she seems to have gotten<br>
> angry at FH and removed his and my access. At some point she said "you have<br>
> access again, enki not".<br>
<br>
</div>Enki, you have access, as does fh, but until you learn to use the<br>
tech@ mailing list to at least have the gracefulness to let me know<br>
that you've asked someone else to fix something and give him root, I<br>
do not see how I can trust you with such privileges.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> This isn't the first such story I've heard. Eric Michaud (who wrote a<br>
> sizable up to half of the stories at (<a href="http://blog.hackerspaces.org/" target="_blank">http://blog.hackerspaces.org/</a>) also<br>
> told me she removed his access much earlier for power struggle reasons.<br>
> (Eric is in cc)<br>
<br>
</div>I have never before deliberately removed someone from sudoers. We<br>
have, however, migrated the wiki twice and home directories weren't<br>
always fully restored on new servers. As with every other bug that's<br>
brought to the tech@ mailinglist's attention, an email from Eric<br>
explaining he needs access would've sufficed.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> it's not cool to sabotage others who actually do the<br>
> work, when you've let the site languish for years.<br>
<br>
</div>I am not sabotaging anything. Without going down the same accusational<br>
path you have, I'd like to point out that letting something languish<br>
does not involve caring for the hardware, backups, fixing small bugs,<br>
or helping people with questions or access to data for their projects.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Sorry to put the laundry out in the open, but this just isn't a way to deal<br>
> with people.<br>
<br>
</div>Exactly.<br>
<br>
Hack on,<br>
/astera<br>
<br>
PS: I will not spam the lists included in /cc any further by replying<br>
to this thread.<br>
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