[hackerspaces] PROJECT: HackerHostel.com

[Agent 5]

Robin,
These are great structural examples, thank you. I'm glad to see they're
being successfully driven. There's quite a lot of useful data here. I
especially like http://crabgrass.riseuplabs.org/

  What were the biggest challenges you had while running or starting a
"shared-hospitality" house? Did you achieve a balance of security for both
parties?

-Dave Johnson



On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:23 PM, robin <robokow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Ideally you wanna create different profiles for people and places.
> People can then be affiliated with the place (+state they have hosting
> capacity at home and which groups they've been with).
>
> Verification could go p2p, similar to how Bewelcome implemented it
> +with comments possibly. But trust-networks yes. Check also
> http://www.bewelcome.org/faq#question1
>
> What you're looking at is one of the things we thought of in relation
> to http://nomadbase.org a while ago already. We done quite some
> brainstorming on this idea, as well as a conference.
>
> For now in my opinion I think the easy way forward for collectives is
> to have this feature integrated in bewelcome (which is to be ported to
> drupal soon, same platform as warmshowers). Though I can also see how
> this could be integrated within lorea for example, or with crabgrass,
> with a hospitality-feature. Or in the future fully
> federated/distributed.
>
> On the other hand, a hacker-specific hospitality-network could be cool
> too. I would actually propose to do it totally offline and just with
> pen and paper, ha!
>
> Myself I am not involved with any hackerspace (yet), but facilitate a
> "shared-hospitality" house for +3 years now and would be happy to
> share more thoughts/ ideas.
>
> Also check http://couchwiki.org
>
> Robin(o).
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Agent 5 <ag3nt5 at dc401.org> wrote:
> > That warmshowers.org site is pretty neat structurally speaking.
> >
> > Trust is a HUGE part of this. But I think if we are going to get to the
> next
> > logical stage of this Hackerspace journey we must try. I'm willing to
> take
> > the risk for the cause. I realize there will always be bad apples around
> but
> > that can be lessened if we all agree on a way to handle it properly.
> > There are so many options for this too and I wouldn't being to pretend to
> > know what the Hackerspace community will want.
> > Passport? written voucher? peer review? holding onto a valid credit card?
> > signing a waiver and agreement to repair/replace broken items? We have
> some
> > of the most intelligent and creative folk on Earth in our community. I am
> > fully confident we'll find the solution that works.
> > My current opinion is a combination of peer review/personal voucher (I
> > really like the stamped Passports) from a Hackerspace in reference to
> > someones character. In addition, I'd add a simple form thats says
> something
> > to the effect of "if you break, it you buy it". But again it's not up to
> me.
> > thats just one vote.
> > What do you believe Thinkhaus would feel comfortable with, James? (just
> > brainstorming)
> > -Dave Johnson
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:32 AM, James Arlen <myrcurial at thinkhaus.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Have a look at how it's handled amongst another itinerant group of
> >> techno-fetishists… bike touring folks have a site called "Warm Showers"
> >> (http://www.warmshowers.org/) which has approximately 10,000 places to
> get a
> >> shower, refuel and sleep. This is a peer-to-peer thing much as you've
> >> described and varies from "you can sleep in my back yard, here's the
> hose if
> >> you need water" to "welcome to our guest room, stay as long as you
> need".
> >> I imagine that the most important thing for success here is going to be
> >> the Whuffies. If someone I trust is willing to vouch that you're not a
> >> douchebag, I'd be much more ok with leaving you to hang in our
> hackerspace.
> >> For example, if you told me that you were backing another DC401 member
> and
> >> saying it was ok to host them at thinkhaus, I'd be fine with it… and
> >> contrarily, I'm not sure what it would take for me to close my eyes when
> >> openfly is around. :)
> >> Is it time to consider the addition of "letters patent" / "warrant" /
> >> "writ" or something… which ties a specific hackerspace passport to a
> >> specific hackerspace and/or chain of trust?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2011-09-02, at 8:52 AM, Agent 5 wrote:
> >>
> >> Good idea! Hadn't thought of that. And thats an opportunity for us to
> >> bring more profiles onto the site even if they don't normally allow
> people
> >> to stay there very often. That would give us more ability to promote
> >> individual Hackerspaces in general.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Dave
> >> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:19 PM, ITechGeek <itg at itechgeek.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think the system should also be able to allow for hackerspaces that
> >>> don't normally allow for sleeping, but due to something special going
> >>> on at the space or in town has opened it's doors to people sleeping
> >>> there (As has been the case w/ HacDC on a few occasions).
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Daniel Packer <dp at danielpacker.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > +1 for off-site lodging at fellow hacker's houses
> >>> >
> >>> > -Daniel
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Agent 5 <ag3nt5 at dc401.org> wrote:
> >>> >> Ed,
> >>> >> Excellent recommendation, I agree.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Something in the Hackerspace profile to the effect of selecting
> >>> >> "On-site /
> >>> >> Off-site Accommodations" you think?
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