[hackerspaces] moar mate

Sun Sep 12 20:24:52 CEST 2010

There is a product that is similar to Club Mate in Canada called Sol Mate:

http://www.drinksolmate.com/ (Warning: Site is almost entirely done in
Flash)

Instead of using Glucose-Fructose, Sol Mate uses Organic Cane Sugar.  The
major downside to Sol Mate in Canada is that it retails for $2.25 a bottle,
and it's only 296 ml per bottle.  I believe that Club Mate bottles are much
larger, and the cost is something like $5.  I sometimes pick it up on sale
when there's surplus stock at one of the smaller grocery stores in East
Vancouver.

(Note: These are approximations, assuming dollar amounts in USD)

We found at VHS that they taste identical when you combine them with Rum to
make Tschunk.

There is a brewing process, and it should be relatively easy to buy Yerba
Mate to brew in North America (it is in Vancouver, I just have to walk 2
blocks to get 2kg of the stuff for $4).

Joe

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:

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> On 2010-09-12 19:19, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 6:36 PM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2010-09-12 18:21, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Regarding Club-Mate, there is a kind of paradox in all the
> hackerspaces.
> >>> Club-Mate is the default drink available at any hackerspace around the
> >>> world but I haven't seen too much hacking around it (except an article
> in
> >>> Makezine/2010).
> >>
> >> Well, there has been some creativity with recipes and club-mate. Besides
> >> the usual cocktails there are also club-mate pancakes. I'm sure there
> >> are more recipes possible. food-hacking ftw :)
> >>
> >>> The main plant extract in Club-Mate is the "Ilex paraguariensis"
> (common name:
> >>> Yerba mate) and the main active components are : theobromine
> >>> (well-known to the chocolate fan), caffeine (everyone knows) and
> >>> dimethylxanthine (the increase of heart pulsation is mainly due to
> >>> that component).
> >>
> >> do you have source of what these xantheines do to you? I haven't been
> >> able to find any reliable information besides that they have an impact
> >> on the regulation of hormones (such as adrenaline).
> >
> > The methylxanthines-derivative were well-known components used for
> > asthma treatment
> > (now replaced with other drugs) and you can find a lot of publication
> > on the side-effects.
> >
> > I think the main publication in the area is :
> >
> > http://circres.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/30/4/367.pdf
> >
> > "Influence of Caffeine and Other Methylxanthines on Mechanical
> > Properties of Isolated Mammalian Heart Muscle"
> >
> > and all the publications mentioning the side-effects of asthma
> > treatment using methylxanthine. I assume that Club-Mate/Ilex extract
> > includes multiple
> > derivative of methylxanthines as the xanthine is a very general
> > group... and usually
> > some plants could do the synthesis of multiple variations (as the
> > theomobromine or the caffeine are already variation of the xanthine
> > group).
> >
> > It seems only a specific sub-species of the Ilex contains multiple
> > methyxanthines:
> >
> >
> http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0103-50531999000600004&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
> >
> >>> The plant cultivation needs specific condition to grow properly but
> >>> maybe there are some opportunities of gardening hacking? Can
> >>> we grow easily "Yerba Mate" in pot inside? or even outside in
> >>> continental weather condition? What are the ways of extraction/brewing
> >>> and how can we properly measure the active components inside?
> >>
> >> Good questions! The loscher people keep their methods secret, but I do
> >> recall hearing about open-source recipes.
> >
> > I would be very interested to hear about free-production method for the
> > Yerba Mate and how the extraction is efficiently performed.
> >
> > This sounds to be a nice hacking project.
>
> Well, loscher did admit it is atleast partially a brewing process, did
> would also make sense due to the fact that club-mate improves over time.
> How this would work in detail, no idea.
>
> something else, I heard someone (forgot who), that there is a similar
> product to club-mate available in canada, anyone know more?
>
> w.
>
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