[hackerspaces] moar mate

Sun Sep 12 21:36:45 CEST 2010

There are a few companies that sell Yerba Mate drinks.  Here is one of
them: http://www.guayaki.com/  Whole Foods carries a few brands...and
I believe that most (all?) are organic, use cane sugar, etc.

So 2600 and Hackers on a Plane are the only distribution options for
Club Mate in the US?

Thanks,
Matt

On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj at gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a product that is similar to Club Mate in Canada called Sol Mate:
>
> http://www.drinksolmate.com/ (Warning: Site is almost entirely done in
> Flash)
>
> Instead of using Glucose-Fructose, Sol Mate uses Organic Cane Sugar.  The
> major downside to Sol Mate in Canada is that it retails for $2.25 a bottle,
> and it's only 296 ml per bottle.  I believe that Club Mate bottles are much
> larger, and the cost is something like $5.  I sometimes pick it up on sale
> when there's surplus stock at one of the smaller grocery stores in East
> Vancouver.
>
> (Note: These are approximations, assuming dollar amounts in USD)
>
> We found at VHS that they taste identical when you combine them with Rum to
> make Tschunk.
>
> There is a brewing process, and it should be relatively easy to buy Yerba
> Mate to brew in North America (it is in Vancouver, I just have to walk 2
> blocks to get 2kg of the stuff for $4).
>
> Joe
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:
>>
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>> On 2010-09-12 19:19, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
>> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 6:36 PM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 2010-09-12 18:21, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Regarding Club-Mate, there is a kind of paradox in all the
>> >>> hackerspaces.
>> >>> Club-Mate is the default drink available at any hackerspace around the
>> >>> world but I haven't seen too much hacking around it (except an article
>> >>> in
>> >>> Makezine/2010).
>> >>
>> >> Well, there has been some creativity with recipes and club-mate.
>> >> Besides
>> >> the usual cocktails there are also club-mate pancakes. I'm sure there
>> >> are more recipes possible. food-hacking ftw :)
>> >>
>> >>> The main plant extract in Club-Mate is the "Ilex paraguariensis"
>> >>> (common name:
>> >>> Yerba mate) and the main active components are : theobromine
>> >>> (well-known to the chocolate fan), caffeine (everyone knows) and
>> >>> dimethylxanthine (the increase of heart pulsation is mainly due to
>> >>> that component).
>> >>
>> >> do you have source of what these xantheines do to you? I haven't been
>> >> able to find any reliable information besides that they have an impact
>> >> on the regulation of hormones (such as adrenaline).
>> >
>> > The methylxanthines-derivative were well-known components used for
>> > asthma treatment
>> > (now replaced with other drugs) and you can find a lot of publication
>> > on the side-effects.
>> >
>> > I think the main publication in the area is :
>> >
>> > http://circres.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/30/4/367.pdf
>> >
>> > "Influence of Caffeine and Other Methylxanthines on Mechanical
>> > Properties of Isolated Mammalian Heart Muscle"
>> >
>> > and all the publications mentioning the side-effects of asthma
>> > treatment using methylxanthine. I assume that Club-Mate/Ilex extract
>> > includes multiple
>> > derivative of methylxanthines as the xanthine is a very general
>> > group... and usually
>> > some plants could do the synthesis of multiple variations (as the
>> > theomobromine or the caffeine are already variation of the xanthine
>> > group).
>> >
>> > It seems only a specific sub-species of the Ilex contains multiple
>> > methyxanthines:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0103-50531999000600004&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
>> >
>> >>> The plant cultivation needs specific condition to grow properly but
>> >>> maybe there are some opportunities of gardening hacking? Can
>> >>> we grow easily "Yerba Mate" in pot inside? or even outside in
>> >>> continental weather condition? What are the ways of extraction/brewing
>> >>> and how can we properly measure the active components inside?
>> >>
>> >> Good questions! The loscher people keep their methods secret, but I do
>> >> recall hearing about open-source recipes.
>> >
>> > I would be very interested to hear about free-production method for the
>> > Yerba Mate and how the extraction is efficiently performed.
>> >
>> > This sounds to be a nice hacking project.
>>
>> Well, loscher did admit it is atleast partially a brewing process, did
>> would also make sense due to the fact that club-mate improves over time.
>> How this would work in detail, no idea.
>>
>> something else, I heard someone (forgot who), that there is a similar
>> product to club-mate available in canada, anyone know more?
>>
>> w.
>>
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