[sudoroom] Proposal to rent biohack room and fishbowl

Fri Oct 26 21:27:04 CEST 2012

Perhaps I'm completely clueless here, but I've done a ton of video editing
in development (i.e., programming) environments, and earphones worked
perfectly while avoiding disruptions or interference.  I wonder if sound
containment really deserves to be on the list?

I suspect that minimizing constraints is probably a good idea.

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>wrote:

> Seems to me we have a few global needs which capture a large swath of
> interests:
>
> 1. Common, empty working table space. Somewhere to throw laptops down and
> have a huddle, or to open something up and put it back together.
> 2. Fixed station space. A few stations dedicated to particular, open usage
> (maybe a computer terminal, a 3-d printer, or some other device).
> 2. (a) some of these stations may have delicate concerns (e.g. ventilation
> for soldering, sound containment for recording).
> 3. Water and sink. Access or proximity to water and a sink are necessary
> for various activities.
> 4. Windows and air. Access or proximity to outside air is necessary for
> various activities. I think this model might be a useful conceptual one,
> and please remix or build on it if you think it's useful!
>  *
> Open working space, fixed stations *(w/ various insulation)*,**accessible water/plumbing fixtures,
> *and *accessible window(s)/air*.
>
> // Matt
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> these are great additional points to consider. let's discuss more
>> tomorrow!
>>
>> - marina
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marina,
>>>
>>> I could help you set-up a very nice recording area, and could help
>>> procure some basic gear, and rent other gear, and I think we could cart
>>> things back and forth depending on that need.  It also fits the requirement
>>> of "quiet-time," so we could have that designation for certain times, like
>>> programming and video work, or something.   Given that, the other basic
>>> requirements would be this:
>>>
>>>    1. Somewhere we can be quiet during certain times
>>>    2. A quiet space or one  that is capable of handling some basic
>>>    rigging with sound blankets
>>>    3. An  8x8 area
>>>
>>> Beyond that, I will be very welcoming to anyone who wants to do
>>> multi-media work, and will try my best to set up a gear fund, or lend out
>>> my personal gear at a small fee for group members.
>>>
>>> Anyone else should let me know, because it will help with planning, and
>>> my decision making process.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Rusty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> i am interested in multimedia, mostly focusing on audio production
>>>> (sudoradio!). not sure why your x got deleted - i'm sure it was a glitch!
>>>>
>>>> - marina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:26 AM, rusty lindgren <
>>>> rustylindgren at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> My "x" got deleted for video/multimedia.  Does anyone else want
>>>>> video/multi-media space?
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel like people could really take advantage of that, and I would be
>>>>> able to rent out my equipment at a very low rate to members and do skill
>>>>> trade.  If not, I will probably charge more money, and rent out one of the
>>>>> other spaces myself, and I would need to know very soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To save you the trouble of opening that Word Document, please see
>>>>>> below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Minimal Satisfactory Rental*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Top Activity Priorities – percent in favor:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 57% computer workstation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 57% 3D printer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 52% soldering workstation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 48% classroom space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 48% couches
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 48% group working spaces
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 38% wet lab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 38% laser cutting/engraving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 38% bicycle/human powered repair station
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 38% rooftop forest / vertical hanging garden
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 33% hammocks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 33% bookshelves/library
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of 21 respondents, recorded *here<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqBO4Q7UXSgXdDdIR1hUN3FhTGN3b0FEMGJvVU5yaFE#gid=0>
>>>>>> * as of 10/26 and subject to my best arithmetic / copypaste.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Satisfactory Space Discussion*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of the top three activities, the soldering workstation has the
>>>>>> greatest constraint in that it requires ventilation. Unless one of the $900
>>>>>> rooms can be fitted with ventilation, the windows in the biohack room would
>>>>>> be critical for this activity. Of the next 3 activities, a classroom space
>>>>>> and meeting space are provided ready to use downstairs, and couches for
>>>>>> hacking back in comfort can be placed upstairs either in the sudo-exclusive
>>>>>> space or I would assume in the common use space if other renters agree. The
>>>>>> absolute cheapest upstairs room is the mezzanine at $300, which would not
>>>>>> be suitable for more than 2 people working at a time and is therefore
>>>>>> excluded from this proposal. The minimum size requirements would be met by
>>>>>> renting one $900 room and the $175 closet, thereby retaining access to both
>>>>>> floors. To enable soldering and wet lab activities and provide more storage
>>>>>> space, the incremental cost to rent the next more expensive room is $600.
>>>>>> The incremental cost of retaining the fishbowl instead of the closet is
>>>>>> $225, which would provide better visibility for events and a nicer
>>>>>> environment for compact activities at about twice the price per square foot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Rental Cost*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Assuming $100/mo utility)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Minimal Rental $1,175
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Minimal Rental prioritizing fishbowl $1,400
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Minimal Rental prioritizing biohack room $1,775
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Minimal Satisfactory Rental:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (biohack room + fishbowl) $2,000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Baseline Revenues*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sudoroom only
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * 25 ppl x $50*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * subtotal dues = $1,250*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> others from *this
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsQ2Ur3gqJI_dFRyalZjOHQzYmotZkxNWU9lLXhEeHc#gid=0>
>>>>>> document<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsQ2Ur3gqJI_dFRyalZjOHQzYmotZkxNWU9lLXhEeHc#gid=0>
>>>>>> * minus $50 baseline dues
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * $270 jae personal projects area*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * $200 felicia personal projects area*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * $200 hol personal projects area*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * subtotal personal space rental = $670*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> total dues + personal space rental = *$1,920*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Proposal*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personal space rental is over 2/3 of the rent of the a $900 upstairs
>>>>>> room from the three parties above alone, which would not leave sufficient
>>>>>> group work/storage space. As the closet is only used for storage and there
>>>>>> is a nice storagey looking room in the biohack space, and the fishbowl is
>>>>>> much cooler, I propose going for the minimal satisfactory rental outlined
>>>>>> above. We are almost right on the money for rental (not factoring in
>>>>>> utilities or one-time costs) and I expect there will be more membership
>>>>>> interest with a wet lab, adequate ventilation, and a street-facing area on
>>>>>> the first floor. This will satisfy the space requirements for each activity
>>>>>> having at least one third of members in support – with the likely exception
>>>>>> of vertical hanging gardens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Proposed Contingency Plans*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Backup Plan (--)*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If sufficient personal space rental or dues is unlikely to
>>>>>> materialize in time or we want more for the rainy day fund, I propose to
>>>>>> abandon the fish bowl and stick to the closet for a total cost of $1,775.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Expanded Plan (++)*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there's enough interest in additional groups joining or otherwise
>>>>>> viable plans for generating revenue, I propose adding on a $900 room for a
>>>>>> total cost of $2,900 or less if discounted. We should also remain open to
>>>>>> adding the extra space in a different building, still under the sudoroom
>>>>>> umbrella but better suited to some of the dirtier/dustier activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This document may be modified and freely distributed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:44 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I won't be around oakland or computers this weekend so I want to go
>>>>>>> ahead and submit my proposal.  Now I can start packing...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy the gathering Saturday!
>>>>>>> Hol
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rusty Lindgren**
>>>>> Digital Publishing / Web Solutions*
>>>>> ***   Phone: 916-220-5340   *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> *Rusty Lindgren**
>>> Digital Publishing / Web Solutions*
>>> ***   Phone: 916-220-5340   *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> **
>>>
>>>
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