[sudoroom] electronic access

Tue Nov 20 09:48:42 CET 2012

In case anyone wants to know, the current device on the door is an Adams Rite 
6600 vertical rod exit device.

-- 
Susan

On Nov 19 06:36, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. We are expecting some quotes from a professional this week -- Erik has
> more info.
> 2. All we need is some opening and intercom hardware because (a) George
> will have someone install it for us and (b)
> Marc/Erik/Andrew/Dan/Jae/Myself/andNowSusan/AnyoneElse are interested in
> making the proper interfaces and getting them working all together.
> 3. I'm working on making sure access is provided as much as possible in the
> mean time, coordinating with Jenny/Felicia.
> 
> // Matt
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Susan Werner <heinousbutch at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > I will try heading there tomorrow (probably around 2pm or so).
> >
> > --
> > Susan
> >
> > On Nov 18 22:02, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am willing to be there often throughout the week, but am still in need
> > of
> > > a key. (hence cc'ing matt)
> > >
> > > George is in the building from 3-5ish every day, I will try to pin down
> > > info on the lock system but would be happy to have others there (eg susan
> > > or jae) to ask more specific questions.
> > >
> > > I'll ask about the factors people have brought up in this thread
> > tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Susan and others, I'll be there tomorrow by midday, can get let into
> > > sudoroom by george or eddan, and my number is 315,292,4656
> > >
> > > <3jnny
> > > On Nov 18, 2012 9:31 PM, "Jae Kwon" <jkwon.work at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I found this:
> > http://216.171.160.5/media/pdf/2011/AR_AC-ElecOptionsED.pdf
> > > >
> > > > It looks like they have an option for an electric solenoid system for
> > the
> > > > panic bar.
> > > > Whoever made our thing might have options for a solenoid thing as
> > well, or
> > > > we might already have it installed.
> > > > We should figure out who made our panic bar and ask.
> > > >
> > > > I'll try to swing by Tuesday afternoon, unless somebody can figure it
> > out
> > > > on Monday. Then, call them, or let me know and I'll call them and ask
> > for
> > > > some info and quote.
> > > >
> > > > Searching for "electric latch retraction kit" yields some results.
> > Another
> > > > solenoid one costs $400+ dollars.
> > > >
> > > > Remaining questions:
> > > >
> > > > * Are there cheaper solenoid kits?
> > > > * Who made our panic bar? (maybe George knows?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Jae Kwon <jkwon.work at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the writeup, Susan.
> > > >
> > > > I'm doing some research online on this now. If you want to chat live,
> > ping
> > > > me on IRC at #sudoroom or find me on #sudoroom_access.
> > > >
> > > > ## Electric Strike
> > > > * Can the electric strike be installed easily, or does it require
> > cutting
> > > > the door or wall?
> > > >
> > > > ## Internal Door Thing
> > > > * What is the mechanism by which the vertical bars retract?
> > > > * What existing device can automate this retraction without modifying
> > the
> > > > external panic bar mechanism?
> > > > * How much does it cost?
> > > >
> > > > ## External Door Thing
> > > > * If all fails, then we can definitely make an external device that
> > will
> > > > not obstruct the original door mechanism, by 3d printing a robotic
> > pair of
> > > > pushers. Who's interested in this project?
> > > > * We will learn how to use Blender and/or Sketchup (whichever is better
> > > > suited for modification of gear and lever systems),
> > > > * and we will scour the internet and Thingiverse for existing works to
> > > > fork from,
> > > > * and we'll be doing some basic arduino programming as well
> > > >
> > > > ## Interim Solution
> > > > * Who's going to be at SudoRoom when? We need to keep a calendar of
> > > > key-keepers, who will be responsible for handing keys etc.
> > > > * Someone needs to create this very specific Google Calendar and
> > invite us.
> > > > * Who has the keys now? How many are left?
> > > > * Who is willing to volunteer to be at SudoRoom at future dates and
> > hours?
> > > > I'm willing to be there once a week until we get a long term solution.
> > We
> > > > need more volunteers.
> > > >
> > > > - Jae
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 18, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Susan Werner <heinousbutch at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What's generally used in these cases is what's called an electric
> > strike:
> > > > (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_strike or
> > > > http://www.accesshardware.com/press/AHS%20HES%20CompleteGuide.pdf )
> > > >
> > > > An electric strike is a device that is installed in the doorframe that
> > > > frees
> > > > the bolt (and thus the door) to move even when the bolt is extended.
> > > >
> > > > Another option is to replace the entire panic bar is replaced with a
> > panic
> > > > bar
> > > > with an internal delocking mechanism that can retract its bolt when
> > power
> > > > is
> > > > applied.
> > > >
> > > > What should *not* be done is any modification of the panic bar --
> > doing so
> > > > is
> > > > likely to violate fire codes / life safety codes. In most building
> > codes,
> > > > there
> > > > are strict requirements about what's allowed (and not) on doors with
> > panic
> > > > bars
> > > > and from what I understand, modifying the panic bar is likely to cause
> > a
> > > > code
> > > > violation. (an electric strike doesn't interfere with any of the
> > > > functioning of
> > > > a panic bar, so those are OK)
> > > >
> > > > Once you have a something that unlocks when power is applied, all you
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > do is interface that with a 3.3V / 5V logic output (relay + transistor
> > > > with the
> > > > right protection diodes is an easy way to go) and connect that to a
> > > > computer.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Susan
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 18 19:08, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Susan,
> > > >
> > > > Last I heard we were going to get an estimate from a door guy and then
> > see
> > > > if we could do it our selves for cheaper. The problem we have is that
> > the
> > > > outside facing door is one of those push bar doors. We aren't sure how
> > to
> > > > approach replacing the lock with an rfid or card reader. Do you have
> > any
> > > > experience with that?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Susan Werner <heinousbutch at gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What's the status on the access things? I'm interested in helping out
> > --
> > > > I've
> > > > already built very similar things (electric strike + magnetic card
> > reader
> > > > interfaced with a WR850G wireless router running openwrt (i interfaced
> > the
> > > > e-strike to the GPIO pins and the magnetic card reader to its serial
> > port).
> > > >
> > > > I also have a working beaglebone running linux (it's a small ARM board
> > > > with a
> > > > hellton of GPIO pins, a handful of serial ports, USB, and ethernet)
> > and I'm
> > > > willing to use it for the door access control.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Susan
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 18 16:57, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All updates on the access issues. I tried to get in today, but no one
> > was
> > > > there or heard the buzzer.
> > > >
> > > > --Andrew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Jenny Ryan <jenny at thepyre.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is a meta-organizational meetup at 6pm before the meeting
> > > >
> > > > tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jenny
> > > > http://jennyryan.net
> > > > http://thepyre.org
> > > > http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> > > > http://technomadic.tumblr.com
> > > >
> > > > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> > > > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> > > > -Laurie Anderson
> > > >
> > > > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> > > >
> > > > it."
> > > >
> > > > -Hannah Arendt
> > > >
> > > > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> > > > -Stéphane Mallarmé
> > > > ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sounds great. I'll be there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Jonoakland <
> > > > bayopensourcehardware at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm willing and able to help with the construction side of the
> > > > electronic access system I propose anyone interested in the
> > > >
> > > > electronic
> > > >
> > > > access project meets before the meeting for brainstorming 6 o'clock
> > > > Wednesday and then after the meeting also...
> > > >
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