[SpaceProgram] HSP Proposal: feedback requested

[cole santos]

Here is another potential cash source. Its a NASA grant for technology
development. I think we should go for it regardless of the outcome
with DARPA.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Do opensource property licences apply in the new first to file
> environment? The law has just changed and it is a profound change I
> wonder if it has had an affect on open source licence.
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Luke Weston <reindeerflotilla at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps it would be better if the IP embodied in projects which may be
>> contributed by hackerspaces are released under open-source
>> intellectual property licenses, such as GPLv2 or GPLv3 or TAPR OHL or
>> CERN OHL or Creative Commons, Free Documentation License, etc.
>>
>> I guess most hackerspaces would likely want to follow down this path,
>> but I guess it's ultimately a decision which is up to the people
>> making the IP.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Luke
>>
>> This means that it's open, but it's protected against somebody ripping
>> it off and forking it into a closed, proprietary product and selling
>> it without keeping their version of it open, if you know what I mean.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Why bother explicitly stating something that is not really true. If
>>> you have a patent, then you do, if dont, then you dont. If you are
>>> utilizing trade secret then you would need to have people sign non
>>> disclosure statements, etc. Anyway, it goes against the hackerspace
>>> stated goals that we are opensource... Plus every project that
>>> receives funding by the Hackerspace Space Program would need to
>>> publicly document as terms of the funding. Given that we are a file
>>> first country now, stating that you own an idea without a patent is
>>> silly.
>>>
>>> Unless you are talking about hardware that was purchased by the
>>> hackerspace/individual. If you recive funding from the space program
>>> ownership of hardware would be at the discretion of the voting
>>> members.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:40 AM,  <psytek at alphaonelabs.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure if it is in there, can we explicitly state that the
>>>> projects contributed by the individual Hackerspaces are owned by the
>>>> Hackerspace or person contributing them?  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths <alexcg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback so far. Good points all around. I've
>>>>> integrated some of your comments and will continue to do so until end
>>>>> of tomorrow (Wed)
>>>>>
>>>>> After that it's just a case of tidying it up and sending it off
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths
>>>>> <alexcg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> We have to submit on Thu at the latest. I'm hoping we can get it
>>>>>> finished by end of tomorrow (Wed). Sorry wasn't more specific - I'm
>>>>>> pretty swamped too and am using what little free time i have to kick
>>>>>> the proposal into shape.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jerry Isdale <jerry at mauimakers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> define 'next few days' -- I'm swamped until thursday... next wednesday really but by thursday I should have a few cycles available to review.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jerry Isdale
>>>>>>> http://MauiMakers.com
>>>>>>> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We'll be sending off the proposal in the next few days, so here are
>>>>>>>> links to the latest version.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vol I: Proposal:
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZLCbfyd_7ZKgALjZcC63WUVMuNDenwTwiAmUwzz53U/edit
>>>>>>>> Vol II: Costs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZC05ncQuQXEPEWORpUNEGUJNEagOlo_Unr5bwINCxI/edit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NOTES
>>>>>>>> * I'm still working on clarifying the goals slightly.
>>>>>>>> * Formatting in Gdocs is a bit odd. Final version will be formatted
>>>>>>>> offline in Word
>>>>>>>> * Please leave any feedback in form of comments
>>>>>>>> * Have re-re-renamed to HSP (Hackerspace Space Program). That's what
>>>>>>>> we started with and I think DARPA will be OK with this name
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sooner you can give feedback the better, since we have to submit in a few days
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers everyone!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To infinity and beyond!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex C-G
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