[SpaceProgram] HSP Proposal: feedback requested

[cole santos]

Do opensource property licences apply in the new first to file
environment? The law has just changed and it is a profound change I
wonder if it has had an affect on open source licence.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Luke Weston <reindeerflotilla at gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps it would be better if the IP embodied in projects which may be
> contributed by hackerspaces are released under open-source
> intellectual property licenses, such as GPLv2 or GPLv3 or TAPR OHL or
> CERN OHL or Creative Commons, Free Documentation License, etc.
>
> I guess most hackerspaces would likely want to follow down this path,
> but I guess it's ultimately a decision which is up to the people
> making the IP.
>
> Cheers,
>  Luke
>
> This means that it's open, but it's protected against somebody ripping
> it off and forking it into a closed, proprietary product and selling
> it without keeping their version of it open, if you know what I mean.
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM, cole santos <cksantos85 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why bother explicitly stating something that is not really true. If
>> you have a patent, then you do, if dont, then you dont. If you are
>> utilizing trade secret then you would need to have people sign non
>> disclosure statements, etc. Anyway, it goes against the hackerspace
>> stated goals that we are opensource... Plus every project that
>> receives funding by the Hackerspace Space Program would need to
>> publicly document as terms of the funding. Given that we are a file
>> first country now, stating that you own an idea without a patent is
>> silly.
>>
>> Unless you are talking about hardware that was purchased by the
>> hackerspace/individual. If you recive funding from the space program
>> ownership of hardware would be at the discretion of the voting
>> members.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:40 AM,  <psytek at alphaonelabs.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if it is in there, can we explicitly state that the
>>> projects contributed by the individual Hackerspaces are owned by the
>>> Hackerspace or person contributing them?  Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths <alexcg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your feedback so far. Good points all around. I've
>>>> integrated some of your comments and will continue to do so until end
>>>> of tomorrow (Wed)
>>>>
>>>> After that it's just a case of tidying it up and sending it off
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths
>>>> <alexcg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> We have to submit on Thu at the latest. I'm hoping we can get it
>>>>> finished by end of tomorrow (Wed). Sorry wasn't more specific - I'm
>>>>> pretty swamped too and am using what little free time i have to kick
>>>>> the proposal into shape.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jerry Isdale <jerry at mauimakers.com> wrote:
>>>>>> define 'next few days' -- I'm swamped until thursday... next wednesday really but by thursday I should have a few cycles available to review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry Isdale
>>>>>> http://MauiMakers.com
>>>>>> http://www.mauimakers.com/blog/thursday-public-meeting/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Alex Cureton-Griffiths wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We'll be sending off the proposal in the next few days, so here are
>>>>>>> links to the latest version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vol I: Proposal:
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZLCbfyd_7ZKgALjZcC63WUVMuNDenwTwiAmUwzz53U/edit
>>>>>>> Vol II: Costs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZC05ncQuQXEPEWORpUNEGUJNEagOlo_Unr5bwINCxI/edit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOTES
>>>>>>> * I'm still working on clarifying the goals slightly.
>>>>>>> * Formatting in Gdocs is a bit odd. Final version will be formatted
>>>>>>> offline in Word
>>>>>>> * Please leave any feedback in form of comments
>>>>>>> * Have re-re-renamed to HSP (Hackerspace Space Program). That's what
>>>>>>> we started with and I think DARPA will be OK with this name
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sooner you can give feedback the better, since we have to submit in a few days
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To infinity and beyond!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex C-G
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