[Hacker-event-theory] turning feedback from ohm into learning points

Amran amx109 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 01:23:14 CEST 2014

this is starting to become a little bit ideological, and crucially not
constructive re the purpose of this list

just as each hackerspace has its own atmosphere/culture, i think each
hacker community is the same. its up to them to decide on what _type_ of
event they want.

as for NL - rejo, you make very good points and i can see where you're
coming from even though at heart (and almost irrationally) i disagree. good
luck convincing the rest of the community though ;)

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Nick Farr <nick at nickfarr.org> wrote:

> A quick note on being more remote: If you're inside or very close to a
> major city, there is a class of people that will just stay in a nearby
> hotel and commute to the event.
> This is also the class of people that would otherwise spend a lot of
> resources and energy building nice camps
> On 04/06/2014 05:27 PM, Eelco Hotting wrote:
> > On 04/04/2014 10:24 AM, Attilla de Groot wrote:
> >
> >>> im with rop - do it outside of NL. the paper-pushing is just
> >>> ridiculous here
> >
> >> I disagree. Of course the paper-pushing is ridiculous, but if it
> >> isn't organised in NL anymore we can just call it CCC 2017. And I'm
> >> not even talking about all the logistical and organisational issues
> >> when organising an event in another country with a language that
> >> we're not speaking natively.
> >
> > It might be stupid to organize it in NL, but that is the challenge for
> > me. It involves a lot of work (and money!) to get it done in NL
> > compared to DE, but it can still be done.
> There comes a point when the cost in monetary and goodwill terms (i.e.
> Security Guards) gets to be just too much to make it worth it.
> If the Dutch are organizing it and finding the funding, it's still a
> dutch camp. Just across the border in Germany should not be tossed out
> entirely as an option, especially when you'd have people with deeper
> administrative connections in the CCC who can assist with any heavy
> lifting.
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