[foodhackingbase] Athens

[Bezdomny Dotcom]

Hi,  I posted to the list while we (unmonastery) were in Berlin for
transmediale but was short on time. Now we have a space in Athens and I was
wondering if there was a possibility to organise an event here at some
point in the future ?

Jeff

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>    1. Re: future possibilities and directions for food hacking base
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> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 16:08:22 +0100
> From: Christian Pfaab <christian at pfaab.name>
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> Subject: Re: [foodhackingbase] future possibilities and directions for
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> On 03/02/2015 11:25 AM, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:
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> > On 2015-02-23 01:12, Christian Pfaab wrote:
>
> >> On 02/22/2015 04:52 AM, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:
>
> >> So I strongly suggest putting in money for getting a decent stock of
> >> items and ways to get them transported (boxes etc). Everyone in the
> >> tearup/teardown process will profit from it, every time. (Big thanks to
> >> the buildup/teardown crew, doing an awesome job every time)
> >
> > ### Yes lets make it as a "to do" for CCC camp in the summer, have to
> > think where to post about that, probably "next event" on our fhb wiki.
>
> Maybe a wishlist for Gear that we can purchase in case of surplus.
>
> >> I am sure everyone had this discussion with
> >> starting a hackerspace and realized it stays a hard problem. Haveing
> >> "member fees" to pay someone else from the community is IMHO a no go. (I
> >> see myself and others fall into the trap of "but he gets paid, so he has
> >> to do it" thinking)
> >
> > ### As mentioned above, for preparations for international events it
> > would be pitfall I think, to run the things around fhb at the moment is
> > doable without payments still, but if the things grows and more time is
> > needed we will have to find either how to get more people/volunteers in
> > for these activities or come up with another solutions.
> >
> >> That said, I would love to see people make a living off the things they
> >> love.
> >
> > ### Same here and I think fhb should help to that in the related fields,
> > but as discussed here and in other emails it looks like more and more
> > that it should not get "directly involved" with any wage payments. Seems
> > to me that fhb could function more like an "umbrella organization".
>
> Or a "brand" like MAKE has become.
>
>
> >> I like project attached reimbursements for people. W/o reading the mails
> >> concerning a forum I am somewhat suprised to see a forum as an example
> >> to put money to, yet I unfortunately understand the reasoning. With
> >> hardware projects I do see it more clear, as you sometimes blow some
> >> equipment, have wear and tear. And of course, we all fuck up in
> >> cooking/food stuff sometimes :)
> >> I can only speak for  myself and I know how I spent and plan to spend
> >> reimbursements from projects, which mostly is put the money forward to
> >> new projects. It always gave me freedom to do more stuff, so I fully
> >> support that.
> >
> > ### if I understand properly you mean build up a budget, reimburse/repay
> > what necessary do more stuff, make bigger budget etc. right? We need to
> > do that, it is definitely one line which we should keep growing.
>
> I do reinvest a lot of money I get from side projects back into my gear.
> Like currently a HotAir Rework Station and some other stuff. I know many
> folks who work on the same model, it is noone sees getting money out of
> a small project as "uh great, wage" but more like "uh great, money for
> future projects".
>
> Anyway. Planning and putting some funds to give ppl doing the projects
> should be easier doable when you do fundraising.
>
> >> All in all I am not happy to think about giving money out from fhb  w/o
> >> it being properly secured with saveing to pay for damaged stuff from
> >> folks, handle unexpected costs, do advance decisions. Take ohm2013 as
> >> the best example, a lot of money upfront was needed to pay for the
> >> tents, and moreover the certainity that the money would be there in
> time.
> >
> > ### I'm not sure if I understand you here. Especially for the camps
> > larger sums of money - like over 1000 rather 2000 eu are needed for fhb.
> > Easily few hundreds are needed during the event and after for "issues",
> > these resources are easy to accumulate during the event. I would love to
> > see our budget in plus number on a Day 0, that would be lovely :-)
>
> Bad wording from me. I would love us NOT to think about how to do
> fundraising for next event, we can just say yes to attend because of
> savings.  Of course we still would do fundraising, but regardless of
> outcome we still have the event secured (moneywise).
> And of course, we have not broken any major things that we should repay,
> yet. But I think this will eventually come (accidents happen)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Christian
>
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