<p dir="ltr">Hi, I posted to the list while we (unmonastery) were in Berlin for transmediale but was short on time. Now we have a space in Athens and I was wondering if there was a possibility to organise an event here at some point in the future ? </p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeff </p>
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1. Re: future possibilities and directions for food hacking base<br>
(Christian Pfaab)<br>
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 16:08:22 +0100<br>
From: Christian Pfaab <<a href="mailto:christian@pfaab.name">christian@pfaab.name</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [foodhackingbase] future possibilities and directions for<br>
food hacking base<br>
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On 03/02/2015 11:25 AM, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:<br>
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> On 2015-02-23 01:12, Christian Pfaab wrote:<br>
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>> On 02/22/2015 04:52 AM, Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck wrote:<br>
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>> So I strongly suggest putting in money for getting a decent stock of<br>
>> items and ways to get them transported (boxes etc). Everyone in the<br>
>> tearup/teardown process will profit from it, every time. (Big thanks to<br>
>> the buildup/teardown crew, doing an awesome job every time)<br>
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> ### Yes lets make it as a "to do" for CCC camp in the summer, have to<br>
> think where to post about that, probably "next event" on our fhb wiki.<br>
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Maybe a wishlist for Gear that we can purchase in case of surplus.<br>
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>> I am sure everyone had this discussion with<br>
>> starting a hackerspace and realized it stays a hard problem. Haveing<br>
>> "member fees" to pay someone else from the community is IMHO a no go. (I<br>
>> see myself and others fall into the trap of "but he gets paid, so he has<br>
>> to do it" thinking)<br>
><br>
> ### As mentioned above, for preparations for international events it<br>
> would be pitfall I think, to run the things around fhb at the moment is<br>
> doable without payments still, but if the things grows and more time is<br>
> needed we will have to find either how to get more people/volunteers in<br>
> for these activities or come up with another solutions.<br>
><br>
>> That said, I would love to see people make a living off the things they<br>
>> love.<br>
><br>
> ### Same here and I think fhb should help to that in the related fields,<br>
> but as discussed here and in other emails it looks like more and more<br>
> that it should not get "directly involved" with any wage payments. Seems<br>
> to me that fhb could function more like an "umbrella organization".<br>
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Or a "brand" like MAKE has become.<br>
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>> I like project attached reimbursements for people. W/o reading the mails<br>
>> concerning a forum I am somewhat suprised to see a forum as an example<br>
>> to put money to, yet I unfortunately understand the reasoning. With<br>
>> hardware projects I do see it more clear, as you sometimes blow some<br>
>> equipment, have wear and tear. And of course, we all fuck up in<br>
>> cooking/food stuff sometimes :)<br>
>> I can only speak for myself and I know how I spent and plan to spend<br>
>> reimbursements from projects, which mostly is put the money forward to<br>
>> new projects. It always gave me freedom to do more stuff, so I fully<br>
>> support that.<br>
><br>
> ### if I understand properly you mean build up a budget, reimburse/repay<br>
> what necessary do more stuff, make bigger budget etc. right? We need to<br>
> do that, it is definitely one line which we should keep growing.<br>
<br>
I do reinvest a lot of money I get from side projects back into my gear.<br>
Like currently a HotAir Rework Station and some other stuff. I know many<br>
folks who work on the same model, it is noone sees getting money out of<br>
a small project as "uh great, wage" but more like "uh great, money for<br>
future projects".<br>
<br>
Anyway. Planning and putting some funds to give ppl doing the projects<br>
should be easier doable when you do fundraising.<br>
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>> All in all I am not happy to think about giving money out from fhb w/o<br>
>> it being properly secured with saveing to pay for damaged stuff from<br>
>> folks, handle unexpected costs, do advance decisions. Take ohm2013 as<br>
>> the best example, a lot of money upfront was needed to pay for the<br>
>> tents, and moreover the certainity that the money would be there in time.<br>
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> ### I'm not sure if I understand you here. Especially for the camps<br>
> larger sums of money - like over 1000 rather 2000 eu are needed for fhb.<br>
> Easily few hundreds are needed during the event and after for "issues",<br>
> these resources are easy to accumulate during the event. I would love to<br>
> see our budget in plus number on a Day 0, that would be lovely :-)<br>
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Bad wording from me. I would love us NOT to think about how to do<br>
fundraising for next event, we can just say yes to attend because of<br>
savings. Of course we still would do fundraising, but regardless of<br>
outcome we still have the event secured (moneywise).<br>
And of course, we have not broken any major things that we should repay,<br>
yet. But I think this will eventually come (accidents happen)<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Christian<br>
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