[foodhackingbase] who is in to keep the ball rolling transfer of responsibilities and glory

Fri Apr 3 13:03:00 CEST 2015

Hi there.

We'll be coming in an Opel meriva minivan from bulgaria to join the camp.
We might have a possibility to pick the tent up. I don't want to promise
anything yet, just asking how big is the tent packed. Maybe a trailer would
be awesome?

Br

Sascha
On Mar 28, 2015 12:49 AM, "Marcel van der Peijl" <bigmac at xs4all.nl> wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> dates for camp are not ideal for me – camp is including monday, but that
> day school starts again for my 3 kids. This leaves me with a bunch of
> options, none of which are very optimal
> - leave camp sunday afternoon already
> - leave saturday with kids, return sunday without kids (250 euro on gas
> cost and 14 hours of driving, ugh)
> - not bring kids at all (but they want to come)
> - put kids on the train in Berlin saturday or sunday and hope they make it
> to Amsterdam unattended
>
> Because of this I have not committed to the schedule yet. I intend to be
> there for buildup from monday anyway.
>
> Transport of stuff is an issue; our gear is in Czech republic right now;
> Daan could possibly retrieve it upon his next visit there and take things
> to Amsterdam area (assuming Frantisek may not make it and drive the german
> hackerbus to get that stuff).
>
> Daan is supposedly staying until breakdown (tuesday minimum) and will ship
> stuff, but, can not transport too much himsef.
>
> I committed to renting that tent but can not transport it, I assume (many
> wooden poles). I also have a sink here (Amsterdam area) which is kind of
> problematic to take to camp with all my kids and camping gear.
>
> Any trucks going past Amsterdam and taking stuff back to Amsterdam perhaps
> for orga?
>
> Marcel
>
>  *From:* Cooking Roffa <cookingroffa at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 5:38 PM
> *To:* Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck <algoldor at foodhackingbase.org>
> *Cc:* Food Hacking Base mailing list
> <foodhackingbase at lists.hackerspaces.org> ; Admin
> <admin at foodhackingbase.org>
> *Subject:* Re: who is in to keep the ball rolling transfer of
> responsibilities and glory
>
>  Hi all,
> Thank you for your email Frantisek. I will go into more detail later, but
> I for now want to emphasize that I'm only considering being the
> coordinator. I haven't decided yet.
> I'll get back to you all later :-)
> Greetings,
> Lotte
>
> 2015-03-27 13:28 GMT+01:00 Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck <
> algoldor at foodhackingbase.org>:
>
>> Hi to all and Lotte,
>> I will answer in the text as ### hoping that more people will do so
>> quickly so we can wrap up this one and set up the orga team for the CCC
>> camp event. As mentioned before my phasing out is on, comments are comments
>> and recommendations.
>>
>> On 2015-03-20 01:25, Cooking Roffa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Trying to push the ball a bit here to keep it rolling :-)
>>> If I read it correctly the two main questions in Frantisek's email
>>> are: who wants to be the FHB "main engine" and what are our "rules of
>>> engagement" so I'll adress those two topics.
>>>
>>
>> ### Yes these are my main questions.
>>
>> "main engine"
>>> I have been giving this a lot of thought. I really would like for the
>>> FHB to be at CCC2015, and someone will have to take on the role as
>>> "main engine" to make that happen. I'm considering to take up that
>>> role, though I know that this can be quite demanding. Also, my only
>>> experience with the FBH as one of the FHB folks is on 31C3.
>>> I will most certainly need a lot if help if I would decide to do it.
>>>
>>
>> ### If you willing to take up the job you got it seems to me, short and
>> simple :-) now the disclaimers :-) :-). We need to prepare for the CCC camp
>> in advance, later on the ground, run the event and wrap up after the event.
>> The preparations during the spring and early summer can and I would suggest
>> should be done within the orga team with people taking different roles as
>> you suggested before on our wiki page dedicated to the event
>>
>> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015
>>
>> I would recommend based on previous discussions with people and
>> experience to try to establish "main orga" consisting of 2-4 people or so
>> for the future events avoiding the "main coordinator" = one main person,
>> that was major possible point of failure in the past with me. If that could
>> be set good, if not well than we will have to have one person in charge as
>> before and in this case you and we will see in the future. To my knowledge
>> at the current moment Lotte is the only person who is considering to be
>> full time around fhb on the ground, can promise under "reasonable
>> conditions" to be there = really can make it to the camp, was involved with
>> fhb before at 31c3 a lot and knows already several people from the group.
>> This means that at the moment she is the only one to who can actually be
>> the "main" person on the ground, so if that stays "she got the position"
>> right? :-) No one objected so far. Now note from me - if I can come and
>> Lotte is willing to collaborate (which we have to discuss everybody has
>> different style etc.), I'll be happy to be another "main orga person"
>> involved on the ground. For preparations I'm definitely in if people are OK
>> with that. However as voiced before I think my main task should be to phase
>> out sooner or later becoming one of the many and I do not and should not be
>> any longer "the one main person". Still this event if I can be around I
>> want to be involved fully hoping that I can skip 32c3 leaving fhb to get
>> more independent and sustainable based on the people involved but the
>> process of transition started already. Lets be honest camp is fun and I do
>> not want to miss it in a big way :-)
>>
>> So before I decide I would like to have some input from you.
>>>
>>> First and foremost: would you be ok with me being "main engine"? And
>>> please: no polite answers here.
>>>
>>
>> ### No one objected = yes. For the preparations are you OK to be one of
>> the main orga? On the ground you are the only one to be the main person at
>> the moment, I'm happy to couple with you if I can make it and you are OK
>> with that. However so far you would be the "one" congratulations.
>>
>> If so, my other questions are:
>>>
>>>         * Is anyone else interested in being "main engine"?
>>>
>>
>> ### One of the cylinders yes, no longer the whole engine applies to the
>> future events too.
>>
>>         * Would you like to participate in organising FHB on CCC2015 and
>> if
>>
>>> so, what role would you see for yourself? Will you be available for
>>> helping out before the event also and if so, what would you prefer to
>>> do?
>>>
>>
>> ### I'll update the wiki concerning the positions which I'm into. So far
>> I can promise two to three months of being one of the main orga helping to
>> organize for the event, taking up what necessary and several other jobs
>> which I'm into. Examples may be getting in touch with people who I know
>> they did workshops with us before and asking them about their participation
>> at CCC camp, making list of their contacts, well the things which I did
>> before and I enjoyed. No finances for me please, not treasurer, I still
>> need to transfer funds to Marcel ...
>>
>> (please check the roles I put on the wiki, it might be a bit overdone
>>> for our small group but I think it would help the new "main engine" to
>>> know who will be available for what
>>> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015#Team_Meta
>>> [3])
>>>
>>
>> ### The "jobs" will clear itself up during time we just need to fill it
>> up and start to work on that.
>>
>> "rules of engagement"
>>> For me it goes without saying that "be excellent to each other" should
>>> be our main rule. I'm not sure if it should be the only rule, but
>>> that's because I am not sure what we consider "rules". For example,
>>> one of the things I have been thinking about is to make a simple set
>>> of 'rules' for non FHB folks who want to do something in the FHB (be
>>> that organising a workshop, cooking, or something else). We might not
>>> want to call those rules though.
>>>
>>
>> ### I took that one from my involvement at Noisebridge at San Francisco
>> and personal experience. I called that rule and the rest guidelines to make
>> distinction of what we are really insisting on and what we are considering
>> to "discuss". How we continue is up to the group, definitely more
>> "guidelines" and better structure is necessary. We should put together and
>> discuss what these guidelines should be.
>>
>> And yes, I would very much like to continue the consensus style of
>>> decisions.
>>>
>>
>> ### Lovely, happy :-)
>>
>> So please let me know your thoughts and give the ball a little push
>>> :-)
>>>
>>
>> ### Did my homework, at lest the first part I hope.
>>
>> Greetings from Rotterdam,
>>>
>>> Lotte
>>>
>>
>> ### Hope to see Rotterdam in the summer, enjoy it,
>>
>> ### From Jeju greets,
>>
>> ### Frantisek
>>
>> ### PS Cut down the recipients so it doesn't end up with me as the list
>> moderator - well or Christian, he newly volunteered :-)
>>
>> 2015-03-13 13:11 GMT+01:00 Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>> <algoldor at foodhackingbase.org>:
>>>
>>> Hi to all,
>>>> in a simple words the time has come when the transformation of Food
>>>> Hacking Base (fhb) organization is needed. I've invited many of you
>>>> in the past to become more active and take your "share of glory", by
>>>> "formal personal invitations". Things started to become much more
>>>> group run in the past, now it's time to complete the process with me
>>>> stepping aside from the position of "main engine" desiring to become
>>>> "one of the many" fhb folks. As some of you know, I may not be able
>>>> to attend CCC camp because of issues here in Korea (ask me for more
>>>> info if you need it), the situation will clear up by May or June
>>>> latest. Till than we need to prepare like I may not be there in the
>>>> summer and possibly later.
>>>>
>>>> I would like actively help to transfer my share of knowledge,
>>>> experience, contacts etc. to the group. It is not really essential
>>>> to be honest it is rather for my good feeling and "happy
>>>> continuation" and well I want to see that we can do it the nice way.
>>>> From the beginning of this project I hoped that I can become one
>>>> day, sooner better, "one of the many" involved, rather than "the
>>>> one" which is as it started. There will be some hurts during this
>>>> process because in a way it is partly my baby, however it grew into
>>>> something much more by work of you, it was done together. It seems
>>>> to me that soon I should take deliberately time off for event or two
>>>> to complete this process, that was the plan for few years already
>>>> and now a must maybe.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to ask if the formal style of "be excellent to each
>>>> other" as our only rule or guideline if you like is OK with the
>>>> others? Next would be the agreement or likeness to continue with
>>>> consensus style of decisions which we exercised since OHM2013 within
>>>> the orga (people involved with preparations) group. What do you
>>>> think about these two points which I personally took as of main
>>>> importance for me?
>>>>
>>>> I've some suggestions to make concerning the transition process,
>>>> how to shape the things etc. but I'll wait for the others to talk
>>>> first and my input will come later on.
>>>>
>>>> Please check the page which Lotte made on our wiki it is to become
>>>> road map for the CCC camp 2015 and hopefully template for our next
>>>> events.
>>>>
>>>> https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015 [1]
>>>>
>>>> Edit, comment, post to the mailing list, use our IRC channel,
>>>> Facebook group, get involved in other words.
>>>>
>>>> Talk to you all soon and please keep the ball rolling!
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely from Jeju,
>>>>
>>>> Frantisek
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>>>
>>>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>>>
>>>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org [2]
>>>>
>>>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand
>>>> Gandhi
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> ------
>>> [1] https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_2015
>>> [2] http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>>> [3] https://foodhackingbase.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Camp_
>>> 2015#Team_Meta
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Frantisek Algoldor Apfelbeck
>>
>> biotechnologist&kvasir and hacker
>>
>> http://www.frantisekapfelbeck.org
>>
>> "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
>>
>>
>> Disclaimer - there are other people who have access to this email
>> account, please be aware of that it is part of the design. For "highly
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