[hackerspaces] Hackerspace and hackerspace

[Matt Joyce]

I mean the l0pht was totes mcgoats capitalist.  =P

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, David Potocnik <david.potocnik at gmail.com>
wrote:

> "First and foremost, some bitches need to get over the fact that
> hackerspaces attract mostly male/white/IT careered/capitalist types."
> "Anyway, we spent our youths avoiding being picked on and beat up as
> much as possible. We are geeks and outcasts by virtue of the fact that
> society rejected us at a young age."
>
> Even though you and your colleagues in USA space X might truly be
> "capitalist types" who used to get bullied as kids, and now want to
> (not unlike "The Mentor") extend this resentimentality as the defining
> attribute of the hackerspaces movement -- yeah, I'll pass.
>
> I'd warrant that the CCC, biggest and eldest hackerspace scene
> umbrella, did not spring from bullied capitalist geeks. So didn't the
> European "hacklabs" of early 90s. The idea has been to explore the
> technology for activist goals.
>
> Ciao
>
>
> On 19 March 2018 at 19:42, . <whipboi at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Wow, this lump bubbled back up to the top again. For once I'm not
> > embarrassed by something I wrote years ago:
> >
> > https://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-July/008163.html
> >
> >
> > There's a slightly older draft of that article still lurking on the wiki
> for
> > the curious:
> >
> > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Rewriting_Hacking_the_Spaces
> >
> >
> > But yea, we're now middle-aged crusty white guys still doing our thing
> and
> > trying to provide stable shoulders for the young bloods coming up.
> >
> >
> > -boi
> >
> >
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >>
> >
> >> From: David Potocnik <david.potocnik at gmail.com>
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Hackerspace and hackerspace
> >
> >> Date: March 11, 2018 at 9:26:20 AM EDT
> >
> >> To: Hackerspaces General Discussion List <discuss at lists.hackerspaces.
> org>
> >
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> >> <discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Imo by far the best writeup on this topic:
> >
> >> http://www.monochrom.at/hacking-the-spaces/
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Quite distinct from the politically libertarian and psychologically
> >
> >> resentimental "manifesto" written by "The Mentor".
> >
> >> It's written by these guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrom
> >
> >> And "The Mentor" is this guy:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Blankenship
> >
> >>
> >
> >> There's probably a dash of Europe / USA hack scene distinction in the
> >
> >> juxtaposition of the two there, as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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