[hackerspaces] Hackerspace and hackerspace

[Matt Joyce]

Also there was a resistor hackerspace in the 40s


On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:

> I mean the l0pht was totes mcgoats capitalist.  =P
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM, David Potocnik <david.potocnik at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "First and foremost, some bitches need to get over the fact that
>> hackerspaces attract mostly male/white/IT careered/capitalist types."
>> "Anyway, we spent our youths avoiding being picked on and beat up as
>> much as possible. We are geeks and outcasts by virtue of the fact that
>> society rejected us at a young age."
>>
>> Even though you and your colleagues in USA space X might truly be
>> "capitalist types" who used to get bullied as kids, and now want to
>> (not unlike "The Mentor") extend this resentimentality as the defining
>> attribute of the hackerspaces movement -- yeah, I'll pass.
>>
>> I'd warrant that the CCC, biggest and eldest hackerspace scene
>> umbrella, did not spring from bullied capitalist geeks. So didn't the
>> European "hacklabs" of early 90s. The idea has been to explore the
>> technology for activist goals.
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>>
>> On 19 March 2018 at 19:42, . <whipboi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Wow, this lump bubbled back up to the top again. For once I'm not
>> > embarrassed by something I wrote years ago:
>> >
>> > https://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/discuss/2013-July/008163.html
>> >
>> >
>> > There's a slightly older draft of that article still lurking on the
>> wiki for
>> > the curious:
>> >
>> > http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Rewriting_Hacking_the_Spaces
>> >
>> >
>> > But yea, we're now middle-aged crusty white guys still doing our thing
>> and
>> > trying to provide stable shoulders for the young bloods coming up.
>> >
>> >
>> > -boi
>> >
>> >
>> >> Begin forwarded message:
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> From: David Potocnik <david.potocnik at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Hackerspace and hackerspace
>> >
>> >> Date: March 11, 2018 at 9:26:20 AM EDT
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Imo by far the best writeup on this topic:
>> >
>> >> http://www.monochrom.at/hacking-the-spaces/
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Quite distinct from the politically libertarian and psychologically
>> >
>> >> resentimental "manifesto" written by "The Mentor".
>> >
>> >> It's written by these guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrom
>> >
>> >> And "The Mentor" is this guy:
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Blankenship
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> There's probably a dash of Europe / USA hack scene distinction in the
>> >
>> >> juxtaposition of the two there, as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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