[hackerspaces] Classes and costs

[Silence Dogood]

I can't imagine this is really a huge issue for most classes.  Waivers
help.  Binding arbitration for the lulz.  But I am pretty sure that if you
are filing 1099s for your teachers there is a corporate veil in place, so
they shouldn't be personally liable... of course such a situation would be
a huge hassle and likely cost some cash for personal counsel, if something
truly terrible did occur.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Pete Prodoehl <raster at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Because my space sometimes has gloom and doom people, someone brought up
> the idea that if you charge for a class, you could be held responsible if
> someone in the class gets injured. This would be different than if you did
> *not* charge for a class because there is no (or less?) expectation of
> responsibility if you are not charging for your services/expertise.
>
> I think the thought is that a student would try to sue you personally
> versus the space, and there was a suggestion that individuals who teach
> should get their own personal insurance that would cover the teaching they
> do. (The space has its own insurance and waiver/disclaimer forms that
> everyone signs.)
>
> I am definitely not a lawyer, but I'd love to hear what others think of
> that idea. (And yes, I am in the overly-litigious United States.)
>
> Pete
>
>
> On 7/21/16 10:42 AM, Silence Dogood wrote:
>
> one side benefit of charging for classes is allowing the class teachers to
> profit.  this can be particularly important for space members who need
> supplemental income to afford their dues or to get them by between
> contracts / gigs / what have you.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:24 AM, webmind <webmind at puscii.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 20/07/16 17:48, Chad Elish wrote:
>> > Here’s a question for everyone,
>> >
>> > What do you normally charge for your classes?
>> > I know its a big cash cow for spaces to make up income.
>>
>> Hmm, not here. I think most Dutch spaces mostly run on membership-income.
>>
>> Both spaces in Amsterdam do not have a set price, LAG generally asks
>> donation Technologia Incognita mostly the same or people ask cost-price.
>> IJHack (a "space" without a space) has been doing workshops to generate
>> some income, I think they did twice the cost price to have a buffer of
>> components or be able to share kits.
>>
>> > We’re currently at $40.00 for a learn to solder class which you take
>> > home an arduino you soldered together. We recently noticed tech shop
>> > charging $99 for soldering a blinking badge together.
>>
>> Do a lot of spaces elsewhere use workshops/services as a way of
>> providing basic-income for the space? Do spaces have other models
>> outside of services or membership to generate base-income?
>>
>> At LAG we're currently looking at alternative ways of generating income
>> for the rent/etc.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> webmind
>>
>>
>
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