<div dir="ltr">I can't imagine this is really a huge issue for most classes. Waivers help. Binding arbitration for the lulz. But I am pretty sure that if you are filing 1099s for your teachers there is a corporate veil in place, so they shouldn't be personally liable... of course such a situation would be a huge hassle and likely cost some cash for personal counsel, if something truly terrible did occur.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Pete Prodoehl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raster@gmail.com" target="_blank">raster@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Because my space sometimes has gloom and doom people, someone
brought up the idea that if you charge for a class, you could be
held responsible if someone in the class gets injured. This would be
different than if you did *not* charge for a class because there is
no (or less?) expectation of responsibility if you are not charging
for your services/expertise.<br>
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I think the thought is that a student would try to sue you
personally versus the space, and there was a suggestion that
individuals who teach should get their own personal insurance that
would cover the teaching they do. (The space has its own insurance
and waiver/disclaimer forms that everyone signs.)<br>
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I am definitely not a lawyer, but I'd love to hear what others think
of that idea. (And yes, I am in the overly-litigious United States.)<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div>On 7/21/16 10:42 AM, Silence Dogood
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<div dir="ltr">one side benefit of charging for classes is
allowing the class teachers to profit. this can be particularly
important for space members who need supplemental income to
afford their dues or to get them by between contracts / gigs /
what have you.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 6:24 AM,
webmind <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webmind@puscii.nl" target="_blank">webmind@puscii.nl</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 20/07/16 17:48, Chad Elish wrote:<br>
> Here’s a question for everyone,<br>
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> What do you normally charge for your classes?<br>
> I know its a big cash cow for spaces to make up
income.<br>
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</span>Hmm, not here. I think most Dutch spaces mostly run
on membership-income.<br>
<br>
Both spaces in Amsterdam do not have a set price, LAG
generally asks<br>
donation Technologia Incognita mostly the same or people ask
cost-price.<br>
IJHack (a "space" without a space) has been doing workshops
to generate<br>
some income, I think they did twice the cost price to have a
buffer of<br>
components or be able to share kits.<br>
<span><br>
> We’re currently at $40.00 for a learn to solder class
which you take<br>
> home an arduino you soldered together. We recently
noticed tech shop<br>
> charging $99 for soldering a blinking badge together.<br>
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</span>Do a lot of spaces elsewhere use workshops/services
as a way of<br>
providing basic-income for the space? Do spaces have other
models<br>
outside of services or membership to generate base-income?<br>
<br>
At LAG we're currently looking at alternative ways of
generating income<br>
for the rent/etc.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
webmind<br>
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