[hackerspaces] Discuss Digest, Vol 95, Issue 19
Kyle Muir
kyle at fuzeinteractive.io
Mon Jul 18 15:37:07 CEST 2016
Kyra
I would check out ISTE. Check out @istelib on Twitter.
Kyle
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> 1. Collaboration with public libraries to host/incubate new
> hackerspaces? (Kẏra )
> 2. Re: Collaboration with public libraries to host/incubate new
> hackerspaces? (Joshua Pritt)
> 3. Fwd: Call for input to President's Commission on Enhancing
> Cybersecurity - bridging the trust gap between the IT community
> and the US government (Cecilia Tanaka)
> 4. Re: Fwd: Call for input to President's Commission on
> Enhancing Cybersecurity - bridging the trust gap between the IT
> community and the US government (Walter van Holst)
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> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:22:16 -0400
> From: Kẏra <kxra at riseup.net>
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> Subject: [hackerspaces] Collaboration with public libraries to
> host/incubate new hackerspaces?
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> Is there any documentation on working with local public libraries to use
> those existing ideologically similar spaces to start a hackerspace? These
> types of partnerships seem like they would be naturally symbiotic and
> mutually beneficial. I'd like to do this in my city, but I don't really
> know what the best practices are. Some successful examples might be
> helpful, if nothing else.
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> From: Joshua Pritt <ramgarden at gmail.com>
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> I would just look online for all the libraries that currently have a
> makerspace or started one until it grew large enough to get their own
> space.
> Then show those to your library and city council.
> I would also find a lot of good examples of what makerspaces do by printing
> off a few blog posts from various makerspace websites. Check out the
> classes and events from ours to get started:
> www.melbournemakerspace.org
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> On Jul 17, 2016 6:23 PM, "Kẏra " <kxra at riseup.net> wrote:
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> https://twitter.com/Empowermentors/status/651004032597684224
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> Is there any documentation on working with local public libraries to use
> those existing ideologically similar spaces to start a hackerspace? These
> types of partnerships seem like they would be naturally symbiotic and
> mutually beneficial. I'd like to do this in my city, but I don't really
> know what the best practices are. Some successful examples might be
> helpful, if nothing else.
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> From: Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [hackerspaces] Fwd: Call for input to President's Commission
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> Date: July 15, 2016 at 3:21:32 PM EDT
> From: Herb Lin <herblin at stanford.edu>
> To: "'David Farber (dave at farber.net)'" <dave at farber.net>, ip <
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> Subject: Call for input to President's Commission on Enhancing
> Cybersecurity - bridging the trust gap between the IT community
> and the US government
>
> Dear IPers -
>
> You may know that President Obama has established a commission to
> consider how to strengthen cybersecurity in both the public and
> private sectors while protecting privacy, ensuring public safety and
> economic and national security, fostering discovery and development
> of new technical solutions, and bolstering partnerships between
> Federal, State, and local government and the private sector in the
> development, promotion, and use of cybersecurity technologies,
> policies, and best practices. (See
>
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/09/executive-order-commission-enhancing-national-cybersecurity
> .)
> I am one of the 12 designated commissioners.
>
> Recognizing that trust is hard to build and easy to destroy (and a
> variety of things have happened over the last 20 years have occurred
> to do the latter), one issue that has come up is the enormous gap of
> trust between the U.S. government and the information technology
> (IT) community, from which many IPers are drawn. This rift is not
> helpful to either side, and I'd like to solicit input from the IP
> community about what you think the government can do or refrain from
> doing to help bridge that gap.
>
> It would be most helpful if you could three things in your response:
>
> 1 - Your best examples of things the government (and what part of the
> US government) has done to alienate the IT community specifically.
> (Or, at the very least, show how the examples you provide connect to
> the interests of the IT community.)
>
> 2 - Things that the U.S. government could realistically do in the
> short and medium term (i.e., 0-10 year time frame) that would help
> bridge the trust gap. If your answer is "Don't do dumb things!", it
> would be better and more useful to provide *examples* of what not to
> do.
>
> 3 - Things that the U.S. government could realistically do in the
> longer term to do the same.
>
> Please send your responses to CENCinput1 at gmail.com. (I set up this
> email address, but I'd like to keep the traffic separate from my
> non-Commission work email.) I promise to read as many as I can
> individually and share what I learn with the commission membership.
>
> Also, feel free to circulate this call for input to anyone else you
> feel would want to comment.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Herb
>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:00:41 +0200
> From: Walter van Holst <walter at revspace.nl>
> To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Cc: CENCinput1 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Fwd: Call for input to President's
> Commission on Enhancing Cybersecurity - bridging the trust gap
> between
> the IT community and the US government
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> On 2016-07-18 02:56, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
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> > Date: July 15, 2016 at 3:21:32 PM EDT
> > From: Herb Lin <herblin at stanford.edu>
> > To: "'David Farber (dave at farber.net)'" <dave at farber.net>, ip
> > <ip at listbox.com>
> > Subject: Call for input to President's Commission on Enhancing
> > Cybersecurity - bridging the trust gap between the IT community
> > and the US government
> >
> > Dear IPers -
> >
> > You may know that President Obama has established a commission to
> > consider how to strengthen cybersecurity in both the public and
> > private sectors while protecting privacy, ensuring public safety and
> > economic and national security, fostering discovery and development
> > of new technical solutions, and bolstering partnerships between
> > Federal, State, and local government and the private sector in the
> > development, promotion, and use of cybersecurity technologies,
> > policies, and best practices. (See
> >
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/02/09/executive-order-commission-enhancing-national-cybersecurity
> .)
> > I am one of the 12 designated commissioners.
> >
> > Recognizing that trust is hard to build and easy to destroy (and a
> > variety of things have happened over the last 20 years have occurred
> > to do the latter), one issue that has come up is the enormous gap of
> > trust between the U.S. government and the information technology
> > (IT) community, from which many IPers are drawn. This rift is not
> > helpful to either side, and I'd like to solicit input from the IP
> > community about what you think the government can do or refrain from
> > doing to help bridge that gap.
>
> A few things:
>
> - Stop using "cyberwar" or "cyberattacks" etc. as the framing for
> infosec issues. A much more useful frame is infosec as an analog to
> public health. Infosec breaches can be potentially be as disruptive as
> outbreaks of infectious diseases and every node in the network can be a
> part of the problem, just like every citizen can be a carrier of a
> disease.
>
> - Start focusing on incentives for *positive* infosec practices instead
> of repressing security research (e.g. CFAA, recent trade secrets
> legislation, lack of reverse engineering exceptions in US copyright
> law), for example by thinking about strict liability for vendors that do
> not have a form of source code disclosure and for service providers that
> do not respond to vulnerability disclosures. Again, from a "disease
> control" perspective, the public interest in having a (even remote)
> possibility of noticing and fixing security issues overrides any
> interests in keeping code proprietary.
>
> - In that vein, mandatory breach notifications under (near future) EU
> Data Protection rules are already shifting the landscape in the EU, it
> might be worth looking into that example.
>
> Regards,
>
> Walter
>
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