[hackerspaces] Moderation of this list.
Jessica Ross
jessica.r.ross at gmail.com
Thu Feb 26 17:34:56 CET 2015
Dear friends,
This person is not going to leave/stop talking about his favorite
non-hackerspace related topic of his own volition and our moderator is not
going to flip his moderation bit. I propose we starve the beast by not
responding to him.
-Jess
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Colin Keigher <general at keyboardcowboy.ca>
wrote:
> Yeah. It's classic that someone who is an "independent thinker" will
> start to accuse a mailing list of "group think". I guess if that your
> accusation that this mailing list and the hackerspace you were banished
> with are both examples of "group think" then I might as well go and dig up
> your past since I am curious what got you booted in the first place.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/london-hack-space/Io8vDQvaT84
>
> Peter previously received two formal warnings on 16th Jan 2015 and 18th
> Jan 2015 for harassment on IRC, via email, and in person as well as
> repeated evasion of IRC bans.
>
> Peter's recent conduct after his first and second formal warnings
> continued to demonstrate a complete lack of respect for other members, and
> no ability to compromise when acting as a member of the community. We have
> not noted any willingness to change this attitude and the many members who
> have attempted to discuss it with Peter echo this.
>
>
> So from this we learn the following:
>
> - You were banned from IRC after being harassing and then evaded your bans
> - You harassed the hackerspace via e-mail
> - You have no ability to compromise with the hackerspace
> - You have no desire to change your behaviour
> - People have tried to mediate but you've demonstrated no desire to change
>
> Then we go on later into this thread to find the following:
>
> It's not a case of just finding him "annoying" it's finding his
> behaviour threatening. Peter stopped multiple people from using the
> space because they didn't want to be around him.
>
>
> So you're obviously toxic to this hackerspace. Why are you causing people
> to leave? I see references to you stalking them around the space.
>
> Then we see other examples from the mailing list of your warnings:
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/london-hack-space/peter$20meadows/london-hack-space/bDlpFC6Lg2o/4kD0zb29lYIJ
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/london-hack-space/peter$20meadows/london-hack-space/7WE1zuRWKbk/JaqLpP9Tu0QJ
>
> On the second link, we're referred to this page:
>
>
> https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Grievance_Procedure/Warnings_Issued
>
> Harassment on IRC and in person, evasion of IRC bans.
>
>
> And then finally this:
>
> https://wiki.london.hackspace.org.uk/view/Grievance_Procedure/Bans_Issued
>
> Harassment on IRC and in person, evasion of IRC bans
>
>
> And according to this, it's valid for a year. Have you given any thought
> to maybe taking a fucking break and seeking help?
>
> Also, complaining about being mean about RMS is funny when he's known to
> be a creeper himself, has the most obnoxious conference attendance
> requirements, and is known to eat things stuck to his foot:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
>
> Quit posting on this mailing list, Peter. Nobody cares about your plight
> and from all appearances your ban was more than rightfully deserved.
>
> - Colin
>
>
> On 15-02-26 08:12 AM, peter wrote:
>
> I disagree. All I've done is calmly express my ideas in the most rational
> way I know how.
>
> I think it's a cultural problem.
>
> I think it is possible and necessary to change people's minds. It will not
> be easy.
> (I guess the scientists fighting religion overcame the same kind of
> problem).
>
> Humans are tricky, and prone to violence and group-think.
>
>
>
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