[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.

[peter]

On 25/02/15 20:11, Red Davies wrote:
> Just wow...
>
>>> In a Hackerspace you volunteer to be a member until the bylaws as they
>>> are written.  You are free to leave at any time.  When it comes to
>>> government wanting to commit genocide of their own people those people
>>> have no choice.
>> Who?  The German's didn't have a choice?
> Right... which is what I said:
> "When it comes to government wanting to commit genocide of their own
> people those people have no choice."
>
> Do you even parse sentences bro?

This is weird. I'm not sure what's going on.

Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen asked a question. What is your answer?
You're saying ze Germans did not have a choice?



>> Blatant asskissing to look authoritative to others on the list.
> Really?  Do you want to know how much I care about approval from
> people on this list?
>
> /unsub

Huh? Did you just tap out?


>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen
> <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:51 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>> I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law' says. I care about what is the
>>>> right/moral thing to do.
>>> I think we all care about what is "right/moral" Peter.  The issue of
>>> course is that we disagree as to the right/moral thing to do in this
>>> case.  The law is a parseable emotionless framework which is designed
>>> to address this issue.  Is it perfect? no...
>> The law is not an emotionless framework, quite the opposite.  This
>> attitude is what has made *apathy* the dominant political mode.
>>
>>>> If your government starts committing genocide, would you say 'oh well, they
>>>> passed a law to make it legal, so there is nothing I can do?'.
>>> I'm actually really disappointed with you that you erected that
>>> specific straw-man.  You seem very intelligent so you know already in
>>> advance why your argument is made of straw.
>> You are filled with utter horseshit.  Peter just p0wned your ass.  Let
>> it be known that Red Davies is a bot (a STRAW MAN?).
>>
>>> In a Hackerspace you volunteer to be a member until the bylaws as they
>>> are written.  You are free to leave at any time.  When it comes to
>>> government wanting to commit genocide of their own people those people
>>> have no choice.
>> Who?  The German's didn't have a choice?
>>
>>>> The problem is people who don't like being told why they're wrong.
>>> Sure, nobody does.
>> Not true again.  But perhaps you don't like to be told you're wrong.
>>
>>>> Why don't they be all chill and just ignore me?
>>> ... because as leaders of the organization they have to show
>>> leadership and deal with PR.
>> Leadership has nothing to do with these.
>>
>>> There are what, over a thousand members of LHS.  Let's just take 1000
>>> as a round number.  If every member were to take up as much resources
>>> as you are then there wouldn't be an LHS.  That doesn't mean that
>>> people shouldn't engage or shouldn't complain.  It means that people
>>> should respect those people's time and not waste it over thrown away
>>> pasta.
>>>
>>> Proportionality please.
>> It's called a filter or to those from the old school: a "kill file".
>>
>>> That's it.  Please respect the time of the volunteers.  They sacrifice
>>> their own project time so others can work on theirs.
>> Blatant asskissing to look authoritative to others on the list.
>>
>> Marxos