[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.

[Edward L Platt]

Achievement "Godwin's Law" unlocked!

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Red Davies <noiddicle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just wow...
>
> > > In a Hackerspace you volunteer to be a member until the bylaws as they
> > > are written.  You are free to leave at any time.  When it comes to
> >> government wanting to commit genocide of their own people those people
> > > have no choice.
>
> > Who?  The German's didn't have a choice?
>
> Right... which is what I said:
> "When it comes to government wanting to commit genocide of their own
> people those people have no choice."
>
> Do you even parse sentences bro?
>
> > Blatant asskissing to look authoritative to others on the list.
>
> Really?  Do you want to know how much I care about approval from
> people on this list?
>
> /unsub
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen
> <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:51 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net> wrote:
> >>> I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law' says. I care about what
> is the
> >>> right/moral thing to do.
> >>
> >> I think we all care about what is "right/moral" Peter.  The issue of
> >> course is that we disagree as to the right/moral thing to do in this
> >> case.  The law is a parseable emotionless framework which is designed
> >> to address this issue.  Is it perfect? no...
> >
> > The law is not an emotionless framework, quite the opposite.  This
> > attitude is what has made *apathy* the dominant political mode.
> >
> >>> If your government starts committing genocide, would you say 'oh well,
> they
> >>> passed a law to make it legal, so there is nothing I can do?'.
> >>
> >> I'm actually really disappointed with you that you erected that
> >> specific straw-man.  You seem very intelligent so you know already in
> >> advance why your argument is made of straw.
> >
> > You are filled with utter horseshit.  Peter just p0wned your ass.  Let
> > it be known that Red Davies is a bot (a STRAW MAN?).
> >
> >> In a Hackerspace you volunteer to be a member until the bylaws as they
> >> are written.  You are free to leave at any time.  When it comes to
> >> government wanting to commit genocide of their own people those people
> >> have no choice.
> >
> > Who?  The German's didn't have a choice?
> >
> >>>The problem is people who don't like being told why they're wrong.
> >>
> >> Sure, nobody does.
> >
> > Not true again.  But perhaps you don't like to be told you're wrong.
> >
> >>> Why don't they be all chill and just ignore me?
> >>
> >> ... because as leaders of the organization they have to show
> >> leadership and deal with PR.
> >
> > Leadership has nothing to do with these.
> >
> >> There are what, over a thousand members of LHS.  Let's just take 1000
> >> as a round number.  If every member were to take up as much resources
> >> as you are then there wouldn't be an LHS.  That doesn't mean that
> >> people shouldn't engage or shouldn't complain.  It means that people
> >> should respect those people's time and not waste it over thrown away
> >> pasta.
> >>
> >> Proportionality please.
> >
> > It's called a filter or to those from the old school: a "kill file".
> >
> >> That's it.  Please respect the time of the volunteers.  They sacrifice
> >> their own project time so others can work on theirs.
> >
> > Blatant asskissing to look authoritative to others on the list.
> >
> > Marxos
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> > http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss mailing list
> Discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>



-- 
Edward L. Platt
http://elplatt.com
http://civic.mit.edu/users/elplatt
http://i3detroit.com
@elplatt <http://twitter.com/elplatt>

This electronic mail message was sent from my desktop personal computer.
Please forgive any long-winded, overly-prosaic ramblings.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.hackerspaces.org/pipermail/discuss/attachments/20150225/6c9e4b2c/attachment-0001.html>