[hackerspaces] Leadership abusing powers. Bullying. Extraordinary General Meetings.

[Red Davies]

Just wow...

> > In a Hackerspace you volunteer to be a member until the bylaws as they
> > are written.  You are free to leave at any time.  When it comes to
>> government wanting to commit genocide of their own people those people
> > have no choice.

> Who?  The German's didn't have a choice?

Right... which is what I said:
"When it comes to government wanting to commit genocide of their own
people those people have no choice."

Do you even parse sentences bro?

> Blatant asskissing to look authoritative to others on the list.

Really?  Do you want to know how much I care about approval from
people on this list?

/unsub


On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen
<dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:51 PM, peter <phm at riseup.net> wrote:
>>> I beg to differ. I don't care what the 'law' says. I care about what is the
>>> right/moral thing to do.
>>
>> I think we all care about what is "right/moral" Peter.  The issue of
>> course is that we disagree as to the right/moral thing to do in this
>> case.  The law is a parseable emotionless framework which is designed
>> to address this issue.  Is it perfect? no...
>
> The law is not an emotionless framework, quite the opposite.  This
> attitude is what has made *apathy* the dominant political mode.
>
>>> If your government starts committing genocide, would you say 'oh well, they
>>> passed a law to make it legal, so there is nothing I can do?'.
>>
>> I'm actually really disappointed with you that you erected that
>> specific straw-man.  You seem very intelligent so you know already in
>> advance why your argument is made of straw.
>
> You are filled with utter horseshit.  Peter just p0wned your ass.  Let
> it be known that Red Davies is a bot (a STRAW MAN?).
>
>> In a Hackerspace you volunteer to be a member until the bylaws as they
>> are written.  You are free to leave at any time.  When it comes to
>> government wanting to commit genocide of their own people those people
>> have no choice.
>
> Who?  The German's didn't have a choice?
>
>>>The problem is people who don't like being told why they're wrong.
>>
>> Sure, nobody does.
>
> Not true again.  But perhaps you don't like to be told you're wrong.
>
>>> Why don't they be all chill and just ignore me?
>>
>> ... because as leaders of the organization they have to show
>> leadership and deal with PR.
>
> Leadership has nothing to do with these.
>
>> There are what, over a thousand members of LHS.  Let's just take 1000
>> as a round number.  If every member were to take up as much resources
>> as you are then there wouldn't be an LHS.  That doesn't mean that
>> people shouldn't engage or shouldn't complain.  It means that people
>> should respect those people's time and not waste it over thrown away
>> pasta.
>>
>> Proportionality please.
>
> It's called a filter or to those from the old school: a "kill file".
>
>> That's it.  Please respect the time of the volunteers.  They sacrifice
>> their own project time so others can work on theirs.
>
> Blatant asskissing to look authoritative to others on the list.
>
> Marxos
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