[hackerspaces] Does the maker culture get the step on the hackers culture?

Aurélien DESBRIÈRES aurelien at hackers.camp
Thu Jul 3 22:50:22 CEST 2014

Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> writes:

> "Recently I told to someone on the list to the importance of words."
> Yes, and you didn't take my point about how attempting to define a
> Platonic ideal of "hacker" would not solve any problems.  So let me
> make it another way.

You mean Platon don't take your point about the importance of using
right words.

> What are you are really talking about is weaponizing words.  You are
> suggesting that If Only we could come up with labels that are Really
> True, then we could label ourselves Hackers and easily evict The
> Others by simply pointing a finger and saying "those are the Crackers
> and they don't belong here."
> Here is a short list of movements that have used this technique:
> * witch-hunts
> * the McCarthy trials of the 1950s
> * the War on Terror
> In this thread you are making a much softer point about the difference
> between a "hackerspace" and a "makerspace".  At best, enumerating the
> differences between these two is an academic exercise.  At worst, this
> discussion only leads to extremism, pointing of fingers, and failure
> to find common ground.
> What's the point?
> --Naomi

No, just use right words.

Do not make me say what I have never say, never think.

> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
> <aurelien at hackers.camp> wrote:
>> A simple question that is real.
>> Google the words and look the difference.
>> Recently I told to someone on the list to the importance of words.
>> Or the black side stick on the hackers word seems to goes against our
>> culture.
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