[hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words "food" and "hacking"

[Jamie Schwettmann]

Confirmation bias gonna bias. Meh.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com>wrote:

> I am not an experienced physicist so please forgive me for not knowing
> that "lasing" refers to inducing a charged state in a crystal or gas in an
> oscillating or pulsed voltage. I am surely showing ignorance because I was
> unable to pull the details about what it actually meant out of my head.
> Forgive me for not having a background in physics research here!
>
>
> It still doesn't describe food hacking.
>
>
>
> Kevin Mitnick
> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:23:41 -0800
> From: jamie.schwettmann at gmail.com
> To: randall.arnold at texrat.net; discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
>
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words
> "food" and "hacking"
>
> Kevin, your ignorance is showing.  "Crystal formation" != "lasing".
>  "Lasing" means inducing a quantum state change in a crystal or gas using
> an oscillating or pulsed voltage, such that the electrons drop state in
> unison, releasing polarized photon bursts in a narrow frequency range.
>  Like I said, you aren't going to have an easy time explaining how any of
> these things work (or not) without technical detail, let alone actually
> creating them without novel approaches.
>
> Hacking often means exploiting the less-obvious features of a system to
> get an interesting result.  I propose a string of fluorescent pickles
> lighting every hackerspace. =P
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Randall G. Arnold <
> randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:
>
>   relentess semantics war = unsubscribe motivator
>
>
> On January 27, 2014 at 9:58 PM Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com>
> wrote:
>
>  All you have described is a new process with working with foods. If I
> start to freeze curry, place it in a bag, vacuum seal it, and then cook it
> in boiling water without removing it from said bag, does it count as
> hacking? No. It just counts as a new preparation method.
>
>
>  The inability to differentiate between "food hacking" and "food
> preparation" here is astounding.
>
>
> If I come up with a new method to wash clothes, does that make me a
> garment hacker?
>
>
>
> Kevin Mitnick
> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:48:28 -0800
> From: jamie.schwettmann at gmail.com
> To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words
> "food" and "hacking"
>
>  A few food hacking possibilities:
>
>  Vacuum-extracted coffee.
>  Nitrous-extracted coffee.
>  Synthesized caffeine.
>  Polymerized chocolate.
>  Polymerized cheese.
>  Polymerized gluten chains.
>  Edible batteries.
>  Sugar candy prisms -- sugar candy lasers?
>
>  I dare you to explain how/whether any of these could arise without
> invoking substantial technical detail, or to make them without using
> entirely the "wrong" tools in a haphazardly equipped hackerspace kitchen,
> or without inventing more tools, and still accurately predict the spectral
> analysis results that indicate success.  Then, I dare you to test your
> spectral analysis predictions without inventing something on the spot...
> and it still has to be safe to eat afterwards. ;)
>
>  Bonus points: make all of these psychoactive.
>
>  - Jamie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com
> > wrote:
>
>  In some places it's illegal to call yourself an engineer with certain
> exceptions.
>
>
>  As a result, I reserve the right to not permit yourself to label yourself
> as a hacker. I can label you as someone who has an inability to contribute
> to a conversation without any meaningful content. I am assuming you're
> responding to my remarks on this mailing list due to the malaise you may
> experience questioning what you have chosen to label yourself?
>
>
>  Oh. The ego hacking that is being engaged in this thread. By the way, is
> engineering "hacking" too? Can I be a geotechnical hacker? A chemical
> hacker? A computer hac... oh wait.
>
>
> Kevin Mitnick
> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>
>  Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:45:19 -0800
> From: rubin at starset.net
>
> To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words
> "food" and "hacking"
>
> Kevin Mitnick wrote, On 2014-01-27 17:59:
> > You amazingly managed to write a whole paragraph without actually
> > explaining anything about what food hacking is.
>
> Why do you feel the need to tell others they cannot label themselves as
>
>
> they wish?
>
> --
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