[hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the words "food" and "hacking"

[matt]

Correlative fallacy gonna fallacy.  troll.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Jamie Schwettmann <
jamie.schwettmann at gmail.com> wrote:

> Confirmation bias gonna bias. Meh.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com>wrote:
>
>> I am not an experienced physicist so please forgive me for not knowing
>> that "lasing" refers to inducing a charged state in a crystal or gas in an
>> oscillating or pulsed voltage. I am surely showing ignorance because I was
>> unable to pull the details about what it actually meant out of my head.
>> Forgive me for not having a background in physics research here!
>>
>>
>> It still doesn't describe food hacking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Mitnick
>> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:23:41 -0800
>> From: jamie.schwettmann at gmail.com
>> To: randall.arnold at texrat.net; discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the
>> words "food" and "hacking"
>>
>> Kevin, your ignorance is showing.  "Crystal formation" != "lasing".
>>  "Lasing" means inducing a quantum state change in a crystal or gas using
>> an oscillating or pulsed voltage, such that the electrons drop state in
>> unison, releasing polarized photon bursts in a narrow frequency range.
>>  Like I said, you aren't going to have an easy time explaining how any of
>> these things work (or not) without technical detail, let alone actually
>> creating them without novel approaches.
>>
>> Hacking often means exploiting the less-obvious features of a system to
>> get an interesting result.  I propose a string of fluorescent pickles
>> lighting every hackerspace. =P
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Randall G. Arnold <
>> randall.arnold at texrat.net> wrote:
>>
>>   relentess semantics war = unsubscribe motivator
>>
>>
>> On January 27, 2014 at 9:58 PM Kevin Mitnick <kevin.mitnick at outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  All you have described is a new process with working with foods. If I
>> start to freeze curry, place it in a bag, vacuum seal it, and then cook it
>> in boiling water without removing it from said bag, does it count as
>> hacking? No. It just counts as a new preparation method.
>>
>>
>>  The inability to differentiate between "food hacking" and "food
>> preparation" here is astounding.
>>
>>
>> If I come up with a new method to wash clothes, does that make me a
>> garment hacker?
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Mitnick
>> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:48:28 -0800
>> From: jamie.schwettmann at gmail.com
>> To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
>> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the
>> words "food" and "hacking"
>>
>>  A few food hacking possibilities:
>>
>>  Vacuum-extracted coffee.
>>  Nitrous-extracted coffee.
>>  Synthesized caffeine.
>>  Polymerized chocolate.
>>  Polymerized cheese.
>>  Polymerized gluten chains.
>>  Edible batteries.
>>  Sugar candy prisms -- sugar candy lasers?
>>
>>  I dare you to explain how/whether any of these could arise without
>> invoking substantial technical detail, or to make them without using
>> entirely the "wrong" tools in a haphazardly equipped hackerspace kitchen,
>> or without inventing more tools, and still accurately predict the spectral
>> analysis results that indicate success.  Then, I dare you to test your
>> spectral analysis predictions without inventing something on the spot...
>> and it still has to be safe to eat afterwards. ;)
>>
>>  Bonus points: make all of these psychoactive.
>>
>>  - Jamie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Kevin Mitnick <
>> kevin.mitnick at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>  In some places it's illegal to call yourself an engineer with certain
>> exceptions.
>>
>>
>>  As a result, I reserve the right to not permit yourself to label
>> yourself as a hacker. I can label you as someone who has an inability to
>> contribute to a conversation without any meaningful content. I am assuming
>> you're responding to my remarks on this mailing list due to the malaise you
>> may experience questioning what you have chosen to label yourself?
>>
>>
>>  Oh. The ego hacking that is being engaged in this thread. By the way, is
>> engineering "hacking" too? Can I be a geotechnical hacker? A chemical
>> hacker? A computer hac... oh wait.
>>
>>
>> Kevin Mitnick
>> (May or may not be the Kevin you think I am)
>>
>>  Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:45:19 -0800
>> From: rubin at starset.net
>>
>> To: discuss at lists.hackerspaces.org
>> Subject: Re: [hackerspaces] Let's end the unnecessary joining of the
>> words "food" and "hacking"
>>
>> Kevin Mitnick wrote, On 2014-01-27 17:59:
>> > You amazingly managed to write a whole paragraph without actually
>> > explaining anything about what food hacking is.
>>
>> Why do you feel the need to tell others they cannot label themselves as
>>
>>
>>
>> they wish?
>>
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