[hackerspaces] Failing/failed hackerspaces

[Colin Keigher]

Combine that with an inability to address this problem due in part to 
the space's membership being equally divided and not complying with 
their lease and bylaw agreements, and you end up with a situation where 
everyone starts to model their space to no longer be like Noisebridge.

You have to admit that it is pretty sad when your organisation is used 
as a benchmark to gauge things like drama and decision-making.

On 04/04/2014 13:50, matt wrote:
> well their hackerspace is in a high heroin use neighborhood... then 
> there was occupy aka homeless people pretending to have an agenda so 
> they could sleep somewhere warm.  the result was most of the cities 
> homeless figuring out that noisebridge was a warm place to sleep... 
> and had a kitchen... and plenty of stuff to steal to sell for more heroin.
>
> you might say... they became a heroinspace.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Crawford Comeaux 
> <crawford.comeaux at gmail.com <mailto:crawford.comeaux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     What led to that being the case?
>
>
>     On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Colin Keigher
>     <general at keyboardcowboy.ca <mailto:general at keyboardcowboy.ca>> wrote:
>
>         It has become a homeless shelter with arduinos so to speak.
>
>
>         On 04/04/2014 13:33, Crawford Comeaux wrote:
>>         What's the issue with Noisebridge? What's fundamentally
>>         different about it now than from what it used to be?
>>
>>
>>         On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <rubin at starset.net
>>         <mailto:rubin at starset.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             In my humble opinion, a failed hackerspace is one that
>>             hasn't been able
>>             to provide a space or community to share knowledge
>>             between people (or
>>             for people to simply learn new things). If a physical
>>             space lasted for a
>>             week but 1 person was able to learn something new and
>>             interesting out of
>>             it, that space would be considered a success in my eyes.
>>
>>             There is no rule that says a space must continue to
>>             always exist.
>>
>>             However there is the notion of personal failure in
>>             putting time and
>>             energy into creating a space, only to see it burn to the
>>             ground shortly
>>             there after.
>>
>>             I would not consider Noisebridge a failure. It had some
>>             golden years
>>             doing what many of us saw was act like a very robust an
>>             anarchistic
>>             hacker space. It's however evolved and changed, is
>>             something else now.
>>             Some would say it's not a hacker space, other say it is.
>>             The one thing
>>             we can all agree on however is that people still use the
>>             space for
>>             knowledge share and learning.
>>
>>             The majority of founding members since have moved on or away.
>>             Noisebridge now is a self-sustaining hacker space
>>             organism, a very
>>             complicated one, particularly the sort that has
>>             predictable cycles if
>>             you know what to look for.
>>
>>             Noisebridge is not an outlier or an exception to any
>>             rules, it simply
>>             happened to be the one where a bunch of loud internet
>>             people gravitated
>>             towards.
>>
>>             --
>>             Rubin
>>             rubin at starset.net <mailto:rubin at starset.net>
>>
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