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    Combine that with an inability to address this problem due in part
    to the space's membership being equally divided and not complying
    with their lease and bylaw agreements, and you end up with a
    situation where everyone starts to model their space to no longer be
    like Noisebridge.<br>
    <br>
    You have to admit that it is pretty sad when your organisation is
    used as a benchmark to gauge things like drama and decision-making.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/04/2014 13:50, matt wrote:<br>
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        <div>well their hackerspace is in a high heroin use
          neighborhood... then there was occupy aka homeless people
          pretending to have an agenda so they could sleep somewhere
          warm.  the result was most of the cities homeless figuring out
          that noisebridge was a warm place to sleep... and had a
          kitchen... and plenty of stuff to steal to sell for more
          heroin.<br>
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        you might say... they became a heroinspace.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:43 PM,
          Crawford Comeaux <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:crawford.comeaux@gmail.com" target="_blank">crawford.comeaux@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">What led to that being the case?</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:37
                    PM, Colin Keigher <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:general@keyboardcowboy.ca"
                        target="_blank">general@keyboardcowboy.ca</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> It has
                        become a homeless shelter with arduinos so to
                        speak.
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                            <div>On 04/04/2014 13:33, Crawford Comeaux
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">What's the issue with
                                Noisebridge? What's fundamentally
                                different about it now than from what it
                                used to be?</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4,
                                  2014 at 3:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:rubin@starset.net"
                                      target="_blank">rubin@starset.net</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex">In my humble
                                    opinion, a failed hackerspace is one
                                    that hasn't been able<br>
                                    to provide a space or community to
                                    share knowledge between people (or<br>
                                    for people to simply learn new
                                    things). If a physical space lasted
                                    for a<br>
                                    week but 1 person was able to learn
                                    something new and interesting out of<br>
                                    it, that space would be considered a
                                    success in my eyes.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    There is no rule that says a space
                                    must continue to always exist.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    However there is the notion of
                                    personal failure in putting time and<br>
                                    energy into creating a space, only
                                    to see it burn to the ground shortly<br>
                                    there after.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I would not consider Noisebridge a
                                    failure. It had some golden years<br>
                                    doing what many of us saw was act
                                    like a very robust an anarchistic<br>
                                    hacker space. It's however evolved
                                    and changed, is something else now.<br>
                                    Some would say it's not a hacker
                                    space, other say it is. The one
                                    thing<br>
                                    we can all agree on however is that
                                    people still use the space for<br>
                                    knowledge share and learning.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    The majority of founding members
                                    since have moved on or away.<br>
                                    Noisebridge now is a self-sustaining
                                    hacker space organism, a very<br>
                                    complicated one, particularly the
                                    sort that has predictable cycles if<br>
                                    you know what to look for.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Noisebridge is not an outlier or an
                                    exception to any rules, it simply<br>
                                    happened to be the one where a bunch
                                    of loud internet people gravitated<br>
                                    towards.<br>
                                    <span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                        --<br>
                                        Rubin<br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:rubin@starset.net"
                                          target="_blank">rubin@starset.net</a><br>
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