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Combine that with an inability to address this problem due in part
to the space's membership being equally divided and not complying
with their lease and bylaw agreements, and you end up with a
situation where everyone starts to model their space to no longer be
like Noisebridge.<br>
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You have to admit that it is pretty sad when your organisation is
used as a benchmark to gauge things like drama and decision-making.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/04/2014 13:50, matt wrote:<br>
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<div>well their hackerspace is in a high heroin use
neighborhood... then there was occupy aka homeless people
pretending to have an agenda so they could sleep somewhere
warm. the result was most of the cities homeless figuring out
that noisebridge was a warm place to sleep... and had a
kitchen... and plenty of stuff to steal to sell for more
heroin.<br>
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you might say... they became a heroinspace.<br>
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PM, Colin Keigher <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> It has
become a homeless shelter with arduinos so to
speak.
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<div>On 04/04/2014 13:33, Crawford Comeaux
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<div dir="ltr">What's the issue with
Noisebridge? What's fundamentally
different about it now than from what it
used to be?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4,
2014 at 3:24 PM, Rubin Abdi <span
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">In my humble
opinion, a failed hackerspace is one
that hasn't been able<br>
to provide a space or community to
share knowledge between people (or<br>
for people to simply learn new
things). If a physical space lasted
for a<br>
week but 1 person was able to learn
something new and interesting out of<br>
it, that space would be considered a
success in my eyes.<br>
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There is no rule that says a space
must continue to always exist.<br>
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However there is the notion of
personal failure in putting time and<br>
energy into creating a space, only
to see it burn to the ground shortly<br>
there after.<br>
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I would not consider Noisebridge a
failure. It had some golden years<br>
doing what many of us saw was act
like a very robust an anarchistic<br>
hacker space. It's however evolved
and changed, is something else now.<br>
Some would say it's not a hacker
space, other say it is. The one
thing<br>
we can all agree on however is that
people still use the space for<br>
knowledge share and learning.<br>
<br>
The majority of founding members
since have moved on or away.<br>
Noisebridge now is a self-sustaining
hacker space organism, a very<br>
complicated one, particularly the
sort that has predictable cycles if<br>
you know what to look for.<br>
<br>
Noisebridge is not an outlier or an
exception to any rules, it simply<br>
happened to be the one where a bunch
of loud internet people gravitated<br>
towards.<br>
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