[hackerspaces] Insurance, liability and kids

rachel lyra hospodar rachelyra at gmail.com
Tue Sep 10 10:26:00 CEST 2013

hi carolyn,

1. Have you heard of mothership hacker moms?  it's a hackerspace in the 
east bay for moms (and other people), with childcare.  I don't know how 
much is about moms hacking and how much is about kids hacking, but they 
probably have some good info for you.

2. Insurance, etc is the details. Don't sweat the small stuff, but do 
get insurance. You'll be able to, it will just take, uh, doing so. Most 
commercial landlords wouldn't be so lax about it, and then scream in 
your face when they remember that they forgot.

3. sudo room's landlord is unusually insane.

4. doing a project on a large enough scale to require renting space will 
usually bring you into contact with some insane people.

5. rubin is a dick (hi rubin!), but if you are hoping to do any 
organizing of a hackerspace i hope you do it from your own email 
address, or one that is designed to be shared (eg 
outreach at hayhackers.com). It is less confusing and will help keep narrow 
minded hackers from underestimating you.

6. people who underestimate you are wrong.


On 9/4/2013 3:57 PM, john lunger wrote:
> We were visitors of this particular hackerspace last night so I don;t
> know the exact details of things in term of whose name is on the
> nonprofit incorporating forms or even if it is nonprofit incorporated at
> all.
> I am actually thinking of starting a hackerspace myself and wanted it to
> be kid friendly.
> When I say kid friendly I mean separate rooms for the adult stuff (all
> the dangerous tools/chemicals/ewaste) and the kids stuff (tables,
> chairs, soldering irons, sparkfun electronic kits, popsicle sticks, glue
> gun, glitter, Legos, Snap Circuits, Squishy Circuits etc (Parents would
> be required to stay with the children).
> Would insurance be more feasible with this kind of set up instead? Could
> we get separate insurance policies for each space. One for the adult
> section/one for the kids section? I would love for them to have a common
> area which would only have couches, tables, chairs, musical instruments
> but not sure after last night how that would work out because they you
> would have to worry about fingerprinting/ of random adults interacting
> with minors.
> Our group is moving much more slowly and methodically than other
> hackerspaces because of the involvement of children. We are going to try
> and dot our i's and cross our t's and deal with all the steps needed for
> everything to be covered if that is possible.
> So that is why I am asking all these questions. But given what happened
> last night I having 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 6th thoughts about starting one at
> all.
> You can check our sad website at www.hayhackers.org
> Carolyn
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