[hackerspaces] Getting some USB Product IDs

Bob Baddeley hackerspace-discuss at bobbaddeley.com
Fri Sep 6 16:46:27 CEST 2013

I can confirm this. I've purchased a PID/VID pair from them before. It 
was sent to me within minutes of purchase.

The only downside is that your VID is shared with other companies, so 
when I plug mine into my linux box and run lsdev it appears with some 
strange name. In Windows it's fine.


On 09/06/2013 04:16 AM, Martin Ling wrote:
> Update: it appears one company is still selling PIDs under their own VID
> for 9.95 EUR each, noting that there were no such conditions when they
> bought their VID and the USB-IF can't change the contract after the sale
> under Netherlands law. :-)
> http://www.mcselec.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=92&category_id=20&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=1
> Go forth and make USB widgets!
> Martin
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 10:10:41AM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 10:38:57AM +0200, Alexander Dahl wrote:
>>> while playing around with USB on ATtiny85 I had a look how USB Vendor
>>> IDs are assigned and found them to be really expensive, enough you
>>> wouldn't get one for your hackerspace, it's simply too much money. Are
>>> there institutions already having a Vendor ID which would give you some
>>> (few) PIDs for your own devices for a lower price?
>> There used to be - voti.nl bought a VID and sold PIDs for a small price,
>> but was forced to stop after the USB-IF threatened legal action.
>> http://www.voti.nl/docs/usb-pid.html
>> It does seem to be de facto accepted by the USB-IF for manufacturers of
>> USB-capable chips to resell PIDs under their own VID - just not for a
>> VID holder to sell PIDs without accompanying hardware.
>> This is exceptionally stupid given that there are only 64K VIDs, they
>> are reportedly running low already, and most do not have more than a
>> handful of PIDs used.
>> Since you are using Atmel chips I would contact Atmel and see what
>> arrangements they have for registering a PID under the Atmel VID. If
>> they are not helpful, there are other manufacturers who are.
>> Martin
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