[hackerspaces] Hackerspace crisis plan

David Francos me at davidfrancos.net
Thu Jan 24 00:49:07 CET 2013

Goverment is putting its own effort into this, with some different
aproaches. Yep, most people is unemployed, and/or students (with still very
low resources + time). Govt has even less money than them, anyway xD

Thanks dudes, we've gained three more members in this two days, I renamed
everything I could to Dlabs, updated the webpage to look less aggresive and
money-carving and so on.
Still need to rename the domain, but it's already late.

Money expenses are very low! < 400€ month (rent + elecricity + water + 50mb
And we have nice ilumiation, a "lacked" server, the 3d printer, electronic
stuff, library, foo, bar, and of course, baz (and qu, qux too).


Hope to see you guys around, and hope this hackerspace has a long live, as
the rest of the hackerspaces in the world.
I'll probably be joining next call-in, so we'll meet there.

2013/1/23 Arclight <arclight at gmail.com>

> Looks like a nice space. What are your monthly expenses like? Because if
> they aren't that high, you may only need a few more core members. Is the
> problem that a lot of people in your town are unemployed? Can you get help
> from the town/government/companies if you do classes, startup business
> space/help, or offer other services?
> Arclight
> 23b Shop
> shop.23b.org
> On Jan 23, 2013 2:51 AM, "David Francos" <me at davidfrancos.net> wrote:
>> We've got (not-so-cheap) many coworking spaces here...
>> But you're right, it might be a good idea, a reduced quota for using just
>> a chair and not having the rest of rights + obligations of the actual
>> members? (Not the same involvement I mean)
>> 2013/1/23 Ricky Ng-Adam <rngadam at xinchejian.com>
>>> More ideas from one of our member (Paul) who's not on the list:
>>>>    - Going towards coworking spaces is working for Bangkok, Thailand
>>>>    as their Hackerspace failed after just 6 months.
>>>>    - Offering rent a desks for small businesses / startups and
>>>>    facilities usage.
>>>>    - Also checkout schoolfactory.org as they have some good
>>>>    discussions going on.
>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ricky Ng-Adam <rngadam at xinchejian.com>wrote:
>>>> Hello David!
>>>> You already got a lots of good suggestions in this thread to help
>>>> future your Hackerspace.
>>>> I'd add that if you want to have members, you need a lot of people
>>>> walking in.
>>>> We (Shanghai XinCheJian Hackerspace) have a free open house with guest
>>>> talks every Wednesday and although we typically get 30 to 40 guests of
>>>> which maybe 10 are new...  At most one or two of those new visitors show
>>>> interest in membership.
>>>> We hit a homerun (meaning someone really active long term) maybe once a
>>>> month. So you have to find a way to play the numbers to get that one or two
>>>> percent...
>>>> The same numbers apply to the workshops. It actually takes a lot of
>>>> work to make someone see the value of a community; we spend a lots of time
>>>> explaining it one on one. And realistically, not everyone is in a situation
>>>> where they can commit to such a community. But I've seen people join after
>>>> months/years of the initial contact (!)
>>>> A positive: I'm still astounded at the numbers of visitors that have
>>>> never heard of Hackerspaces given the coverage we've got in the expat and
>>>> Chinese press. So that's always lots of headroom!
>>>> Another: people become more committed when something needs to get done
>>>> and they do it. Helpful for a nascent community.
>>>> good luck!
>>>> Ricky
>>>> On Jan 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "David Francos" <me at davidfrancos.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>> I'm from DegeneratedLabs, Zaragoza (Spain) Hackerspace.
>>>>> It's probably the first time I write here, tought I've been lurking
>>>>> for a while.
>>>>> We've got a 2-year old hackerspace here, with a nice-as-hell space,
>>>>> but we've recently lost almost all of our members (three remaining, not
>>>>> much money)
>>>>> We're thinking on alternative economic support stuff, we've got a few
>>>>> nice things (a 3d printer, two floors (one of them mostly used as a
>>>>> workshop and the other a a source for talks etc), lots of hardware, tools,
>>>>> fridges coffe machines, a huge library...)
>>>>> Aside from that, we've got very poor access to people (We are
>>>>> currently FOUR people!).
>>>>> We don't have a very good online image, but we're constantly moving it
>>>>> IRL, trought talks and so on.
>>>>> Could you give us any guidance on how to proceed to avoid the
>>>>> hackerspace's death? Is there any crisis plan developed that can be a
>>>>> little generic to them?
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