[hackerspaces] Firearms in Hackerspaces?

Matt Joyce matt at nycresistor.com
Thu Jan 17 00:28:22 CET 2013

Thought this might be interesting to a few.


One of the foremost advocates for gun control in the Senate, has a
license to carry a concealed firearm.

It's not necessarily a moral issue guys.


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Pavol Luptak <wilder at trip.sk> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 03:12:30PM -0800, Jake wrote:
>> you seem to propose that multiple sources of bullets would make
>> everyone safer, or that if the situation hasn't progressed to
>> shooting yet, the "gun wielding ass-hat" would be more easily
>> escorted off the property by armed hackers (as opposed to law
>> enforcement or unarmed hackers).
> I agree with you (logically if we have totally 10 guns in the world, there
> will be less gun-murders than in the situation when we have millions of guns).
> On the other hand, many guns (and other killing tools) is just a result of
> our technical evolution and this cannot be reversed back (atomic bomb
> unfortunately cannot be 'uninvented').
> I really would wish a society without any weapons/guns, but this is just an
> utopia.
> I think the problem of gun-control is that it is 'centrally forced' by
> the government that decides who can own guns (police + army) and who cannot.
> (massive gun-control was used by Hitler and Lenin to gain the state domination
> over their citizens).
> So I would really appreciate (if it is possible) to have a decentralized
> gun-control (= to take guns also from the bad government and bad people).
> But have no idea how to achieve it.
> I don't like guns and wish no one would have it, but if I want to be ethically
> consistent, rational and live in a non-coercion society (I am voluntary-ist),
> I simply need to accept fact that everybody has a right to have a gun to
> defend himself.
>> the NRA and gun nuts like those who suggest every school should have
>> an armed guard (some say every classroom) say that more guns == more
>> safe. Those people include Nancy Lanza (mother of the Newtown
>> schooter and his first victim) and Keith Ratliff (found shot in his
>> office) and countless parents whose children found their guns and
>> killed themselves or others.
> Personally in the US I don't see problems in guns, but in psychological
> healthiness of the society (don't take it personally, I have a huge number of
> american friends :)
> In Switzerland almost every adult has a gun and there are almost none
> gun-murders.
> I think US citizens should improve their psychological healthiness,
> be more happy, less depressive, etc.
> I see a corellation between the number of people that need psychoterapists
> and number of prisoned people and number of gun-murdered people.
> Unfortunately in the US there is the highest concentration of prisoners
> in the world (more than was in Stalin's gulags) and this is definitely not
> a healthy society...
> Pavol
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