[hackerspaces] Firearms in Hackerspaces?

[Tim Krabec]

I was not simply talking about nerf & nail guns.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Michel Gallant <sfxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not talking about nail guns or nerf guns, nice try.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Tim Krabec <tkrabec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nail gun, Nerf Gun.
>> I'll agree that guns were originally designed for ending lives, but they
>> are now also used for target shooting.  In the Case of nerf guns they are
>> just plain fun.  They have been modified to shoot nails, staples, etc.
>> Also T-Shirts and Potato guns.
>>
>> With that said, Look at what the goal of the hacker space is, look at the
>> members, local, state & national laws, and make a decision best for your
>> space.  I for one do not plan on denying entry to those carrying.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Michel Gallant <sfxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was addressing Pete's equivocation of guns with other tools. A gun is
>>> a tool for ending lives. Why is it insane to be afraid of having that
>>> dangerous, single-use tool at a hackerspace?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Phillip Rhodes <
>>> motley.crue.fan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If that were true, then how could anyone ever use a drill press, band
>>>> saw, lathe, etc.
>>>> I think having a healthy-respect for tools is one thing, but being
>>>> *afraid* of them is quite
>>>> something else.  But maybe we're just debating semantics?
>>>>
>>>> At any rate, all tools can be dangerous and deserve to be used with
>>>> care and
>>>> the proper precautions.  In that regard, how is a pistol any different
>>>> from a band-saw?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Michel Gallant <sfxman at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Being afraid of tools that can rip your fingers off isn't insane, it's
>>>> > healthy. You are insane to claim otherwise.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Mark Atwood <me at mark.atwood.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Pete Prodoehl <raster at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Here's a quick question for US-based hacker/makerspaces... Do you
>>>> have a
>>>> >> > firearms ban at your space, and if so, what are some of the
>>>> reasons behind
>>>> >> > the decision?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We don't have a rule at our space.  Our space is a member-oriented
>>>> >> space, no "general public" except as guests of members or as visitors
>>>> >> to specific private events.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If such a rule was proposed, I would argue strongly against it.  If
>>>> >> someone is a legal owner/carrier of a firearm, if we can't trust them
>>>> >> with their gun, we can't trust them with all the tools *either*.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> More generally, if someone in a makerspace is "afraid" of guns,
>>>> that's
>>>> >> insane.  They should be afraid of all the other tools too.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ..m
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