[hackerspaces] Firearms in Hackerspaces?

Michel Gallant sfxman at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 21:43:53 CET 2013


I'm not talking about nail guns or nerf guns, nice try.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Tim Krabec <tkrabec at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nail gun, Nerf Gun.
> I'll agree that guns were originally designed for ending lives, but they
> are now also used for target shooting.  In the Case of nerf guns they are
> just plain fun.  They have been modified to shoot nails, staples, etc.
> Also T-Shirts and Potato guns.
>
> With that said, Look at what the goal of the hacker space is, look at the
> members, local, state & national laws, and make a decision best for your
> space.  I for one do not plan on denying entry to those carrying.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Michel Gallant <sfxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was addressing Pete's equivocation of guns with other tools. A gun is a
>> tool for ending lives. Why is it insane to be afraid of having that
>> dangerous, single-use tool at a hackerspace?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Phillip Rhodes <
>> motley.crue.fan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If that were true, then how could anyone ever use a drill press, band
>>> saw, lathe, etc.
>>> I think having a healthy-respect for tools is one thing, but being
>>> *afraid* of them is quite
>>> something else.  But maybe we're just debating semantics?
>>>
>>> At any rate, all tools can be dangerous and deserve to be used with care
>>> and
>>> the proper precautions.  In that regard, how is a pistol any different
>>> from a band-saw?
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Michel Gallant <sfxman at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Being afraid of tools that can rip your fingers off isn't insane, it's
>>> > healthy. You are insane to claim otherwise.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Mark Atwood <me at mark.atwood.name>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Pete Prodoehl <raster at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Here's a quick question for US-based hacker/makerspaces... Do you
>>> have a
>>> >> > firearms ban at your space, and if so, what are some of the reasons
>>> behind
>>> >> > the decision?
>>> >>
>>> >> We don't have a rule at our space.  Our space is a member-oriented
>>> >> space, no "general public" except as guests of members or as visitors
>>> >> to specific private events.
>>> >>
>>> >> If such a rule was proposed, I would argue strongly against it.  If
>>> >> someone is a legal owner/carrier of a firearm, if we can't trust them
>>> >> with their gun, we can't trust them with all the tools *either*.
>>> >>
>>> >> More generally, if someone in a makerspace is "afraid" of guns, that's
>>> >> insane.  They should be afraid of all the other tools too.
>>> >>
>>> >> ..m
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