<div dir="ltr">I'm not talking about nail guns or nerf guns, nice try.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Tim Krabec <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tkrabec@gmail.com" target="_blank">tkrabec@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Nail gun, Nerf Gun. <br></div>I'll agree that guns were originally designed for ending lives, but they are now also used for target shooting. In the Case of nerf guns they are just plain fun. They have been modified to shoot nails, staples, etc. Also T-Shirts and Potato guns. <br>
<br></div>With that said, Look at what the goal of the hacker space is, look at the members, local, state & national laws, and make a decision best for your space. I for one do not plan on denying entry to those carrying.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Michel Gallant <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sfxman@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfxman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I was addressing Pete's equivocation of guns with other tools. A gun is a tool for ending lives. Why is it insane to be afraid of having that dangerous, single-use tool at a hackerspace?<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Phillip Rhodes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:motley.crue.fan@gmail.com" target="_blank">motley.crue.fan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If that were true, then how could anyone ever use a drill press, band<br>
saw, lathe, etc.<br>
I think having a healthy-respect for tools is one thing, but being<br>
*afraid* of them is quite<br>
something else. But maybe we're just debating semantics?<br>
<br>
At any rate, all tools can be dangerous and deserve to be used with care and<br>
the proper precautions. In that regard, how is a pistol any different<br>
from a band-saw?<br>
<br>
<br>
Phil<br>
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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Michel Gallant <<a href="mailto:sfxman@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfxman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Being afraid of tools that can rip your fingers off isn't insane, it's<br>
> healthy. You are insane to claim otherwise.<br>
><br>
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> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Mark Atwood <<a href="mailto:me@mark.atwood.name" target="_blank">me@mark.atwood.name</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Pete Prodoehl <<a href="mailto:raster@gmail.com" target="_blank">raster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Here's a quick question for US-based hacker/makerspaces... Do you have a<br>
>> > firearms ban at your space, and if so, what are some of the reasons behind<br>
>> > the decision?<br>
>><br>
>> We don't have a rule at our space. Our space is a member-oriented<br>
>> space, no "general public" except as guests of members or as visitors<br>
>> to specific private events.<br>
>><br>
>> If such a rule was proposed, I would argue strongly against it. If<br>
>> someone is a legal owner/carrier of a firearm, if we can't trust them<br>
>> with their gun, we can't trust them with all the tools *either*.<br>
>><br>
>> More generally, if someone in a makerspace is "afraid" of guns, that's<br>
>> insane. They should be afraid of all the other tools too.<br>
>><br>
>> ..m<br>
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