[hackerspaces] [wiki] TechShop

[David Powell]

+1 for a badge and +1 for better search criteria.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:

> build a rest API and they will come.
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Edward L Platt <ed at elplatt.com> wrote:
> > Ooh!  Another thought.  Maybe the badge could even contain a summary of
> the
> > space's profit/membership/governance structure!
> >
> > -Ed
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Edward L Platt <ed at elplatt.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looking at things like non-profit status, open/closed membership, and
> even
> >> community governance, you will find plenty of bona fide hackerspaces
> that
> >> fall on either side.
> >>
> >> +1 For providing a better view of where a particular space falls on
> these
> >> spectra, rather than quibbling about whether or not to label them as a
> >> hackerspace.
> >>
> >> Also, the last time this dead horse received a thorough beating, I
> recall
> >> someone suggesting self-identification as a reasonable requirement.  So
> I
> >> propose the following: we create a hackerspaces.org website badge (or
> maybe
> >> one already exists) and if a space doesn't display the badge on their
> >> homepage, they're fair game for removal (or not, do-ocracy style).
> >>
> >> Happy hacking,
> >> -Ed
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> maybe the correct answer here is not "exclusion" but a better view of
> >>> the data we have?
> >>>
> >>> if we could sort based on key values, such as the tax structure of the
> >>> group, ownership, rental, or squat.  business?  club?  hardware vs
> >>> software?  genetic? burners or other creatives?  academic institution?
> >>>  research oriented lab?
> >>>
> >>> there are many different groups in the world and many ways to apply
> >>> ones self to their community.  Maybe the right answer is to take this
> >>> wealth of data and provide a better visualization of that data.
> >>>
> >>> -Matt
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Powell <davepow16 at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > I have not problem with TechShop being called a hackerspace. There
> are
> >>> > a lot
> >>> > of "Hackerspaces" on the list that could IMO be questionable but not
> >>> > because
> >>> > of their profit status.I don't think profit status has anything to do
> >>> > with
> >>> > it. Do they provide a space for like minded individuals to share
> >>> > knowledge
> >>> > about whatever it is those people may be interested in?
> >>> >
> >>> > One thing that people need to keep in mind is that most hackerspaces
> >>> > need to
> >>> > make money in order to keep their doors open. It some communities
> it's
> >>> > as
> >>> > simple as getting everyone to pitch in some money. In other
> communities
> >>> > people are cheap and feel like they are entitled to everything for
> free
> >>> > and
> >>> > they want the members of the hackerspace to also deliver service
> with a
> >>> > smile. It really depends on what works for the area each space is in.
> >>> >
> >>> > We are a non-profit 501(c)(3) but we have plans for selling our
> >>> > knowledge in
> >>> > order to keep the doors open. It's a lot of work and most of our
> >>> > members
> >>> > don't want to put in extra effort to make things run smoothly. So the
> >>> > few of
> >>> > us who do feel we need to charge people coming through the door
> because
> >>> > the
> >>> > freeloading is not paying the bills. Being a non-profit has a lot of
> >>> > down
> >>> > sides including making sure we are not breaking laws when we sell
> >>> > something.
> >>> > If I had to do it all over again I would not have setup our space as
> a
> >>> > 501(c)(3). I would have started a for profit business and ran it
> like I
> >>> > owned it.
> >>> >
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Edward L. Platt
> >> http://elplatt.com
> >> 248.320.5061
> >
> >
> >
> >
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