[hackerspaces] [wiki] TechShop

[Matt Joyce]

build a rest API and they will come.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Edward L Platt <ed at elplatt.com> wrote:
> Ooh!  Another thought.  Maybe the badge could even contain a summary of the
> space's profit/membership/governance structure!
>
> -Ed
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Edward L Platt <ed at elplatt.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking at things like non-profit status, open/closed membership, and even
>> community governance, you will find plenty of bona fide hackerspaces that
>> fall on either side.
>>
>> +1 For providing a better view of where a particular space falls on these
>> spectra, rather than quibbling about whether or not to label them as a
>> hackerspace.
>>
>> Also, the last time this dead horse received a thorough beating, I recall
>> someone suggesting self-identification as a reasonable requirement.  So I
>> propose the following: we create a hackerspaces.org website badge (or maybe
>> one already exists) and if a space doesn't display the badge on their
>> homepage, they're fair game for removal (or not, do-ocracy style).
>>
>> Happy hacking,
>> -Ed
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> maybe the correct answer here is not "exclusion" but a better view of
>>> the data we have?
>>>
>>> if we could sort based on key values, such as the tax structure of the
>>> group, ownership, rental, or squat.  business?  club?  hardware vs
>>> software?  genetic? burners or other creatives?  academic institution?
>>>  research oriented lab?
>>>
>>> there are many different groups in the world and many ways to apply
>>> ones self to their community.  Maybe the right answer is to take this
>>> wealth of data and provide a better visualization of that data.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Powell <davepow16 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I have not problem with TechShop being called a hackerspace. There are
>>> > a lot
>>> > of "Hackerspaces" on the list that could IMO be questionable but not
>>> > because
>>> > of their profit status.I don't think profit status has anything to do
>>> > with
>>> > it. Do they provide a space for like minded individuals to share
>>> > knowledge
>>> > about whatever it is those people may be interested in?
>>> >
>>> > One thing that people need to keep in mind is that most hackerspaces
>>> > need to
>>> > make money in order to keep their doors open. It some communities it's
>>> > as
>>> > simple as getting everyone to pitch in some money. In other communities
>>> > people are cheap and feel like they are entitled to everything for free
>>> > and
>>> > they want the members of the hackerspace to also deliver service with a
>>> > smile. It really depends on what works for the area each space is in.
>>> >
>>> > We are a non-profit 501(c)(3) but we have plans for selling our
>>> > knowledge in
>>> > order to keep the doors open. It's a lot of work and most of our
>>> > members
>>> > don't want to put in extra effort to make things run smoothly. So the
>>> > few of
>>> > us who do feel we need to charge people coming through the door because
>>> > the
>>> > freeloading is not paying the bills. Being a non-profit has a lot of
>>> > down
>>> > sides including making sure we are not breaking laws when we sell
>>> > something.
>>> > If I had to do it all over again I would not have setup our space as a
>>> > 501(c)(3). I would have started a for profit business and ran it like I
>>> > owned it.
>>> >
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