[hackerspaces] Is this a hackerspace?

[Far McKon]

OT: Intended or not, that argument below is a *textbook* Straw Man [1]

The straw man fallacy occurs in the following pattern of argument:
1) Person 1 has position X.
2) Person 2 disregards certain key points of X and instead presents the
superficially similar position Y. The position Y is a distorted version
of X and can be set up in several ways...

Please try to rise above the USA-simpleton-politics level of logical
fallacies, they are very boring.  kthxbai!

hack on,
- Far McKon


[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man



On 1/2/13 2:03 PM, William Reyor wrote:
> Ok so lets get this right.
>
> For-profit  spaces that are not member run - OK
> Non-profit member run spaces - OK
> Non-profit spaces that have paid classes - OK
> For profit spaces that have paid classes - Not OK
>
> What about spaces that rely on local government for support would they
> be allowed?
>
>
> I think trying to judge and measure each entity is an exercise in
> futility. Why not allow what is ?
>
>
>
> - William Reyor
>
> On Jan 2, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Buddy Smith <buddy.smith at ieee.org
> <mailto:buddy.smith at ieee.org>> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM, William Reyor <opticfiber at gmail.com
>> <mailto:opticfiber at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Should probably remove freespace Atlanta too then.
>>
>>
>> You mean Freeside?
>>
>> It's a non-profit, organized as a hackerspace. It self identifies as
>> a hackerspace 
>>
>>     https://sites.google.com/site/freesideatl/joining
>>     http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/FreesideAtlanta
>>
>>     Requires two members to sponsor, sounds elitist and exclusive to me.
>>
>>     Then again, who am I to start judging who belongs and who doesn't....
>>
>>
>> I think there can be a distinction between "hackerspace" and "not
>> hackerspace".
>>
>> If you can justify it, then remove them. I think you'll find some
>> objection.
>>
>> I think Freeside shares some number of qualities with most
>> hackerspaces, and "Hacker Hostel" does not. It's not member-run, it's
>> for profit, it's nothing more than a dorm and set of expensive IT
>> classes.
>>
>> Personally, I think tech shops and hackerspaces/makerspaces should
>> remain on the wiki. Coworking spaces should probably not be on the
>> wiki, IT schools should not be on the wiki.
>>
>> I think for-profit IT schools with no other links to the hackerspace
>> movement should be deleted.
>>
>> --buddy
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