[hackerspaces] Help me make it happen for 'hackert0wn' on Indiegogo

[Matt Joyce]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100148797/Shipping-Container-Architecture-Booklet-pdf

You might want to read that.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
> http://www.archdaily.com/27386/platoon-kunsthalle-graft-architects/
>
> I'd like to point out a couple things.
>
> Note the foundation, roof, electrical... etc.
>
> Also note that this was built in Seoul South Korea.
>
> Also note that no cost estimate was included.  My guess is they spent
> more than 1.5 mil USD equivalent even in Seoul.
>
> This might give you an idea of just how much of an operation this was:
>
> concept design: PLATOON cultural development
> architectural consultancy: GRAFT architects + Baik Jiwon
> executive architect: U-il Architects & Engineers
> prefab engineering: Ace special container, Korea
> structural engineering: MIDAS IT, Korea
> interior design: URBANTAINER, Korea
> main contractor: Hyojung construction & development, Korea
> location: 97-22, Nonhyeon-dong, Gangnam-gu,Seoul, Korea
>
> NOTE: Graft assisted Platoon in the architectural development of the
> Kunsthalle, which is based on the signature container modules as
> developed by Platoon for their first container setup in Berlin. The
> optimized arrangement of the containers in Seoul was developed in
> brainstorming sessions between Platoon and Graft and developed and
> illustrated by Graft.
> The interior design finishes and furniture are developed by Platoon
> and Baik Jiwon.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Psy Tek <psytek at alphaonelabs.com> wrote:
>> We have a lot of work to do on this.  Thank you all for the valuable
>> feedback.
>>
>> Here's a similar project that uses 40 shipping containers:
>> http://www.kunsthalle.com/
>>
>> We've created a uservoice page here http://hackert0wn.uservoice.com to
>> itemize the feedback and keep track of it.
>> Here is an etherpad if you prefer to jot some notes:
>> http://piratepad.net/aZ6OaNoGFx
>>
>> We also have a Google group where you can see more of the history of the
>> hackert0wn project here:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/hackert0wn
>>
>> psytek
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM, William Saturno <wsaturno at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, I had a bump in the road and hit send by accident.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I was Hit with a possible idea When arc light was describing The
>>> artist loft he had seen. Perhaps a custom built Simple  Metal shed and roof
>>> ( shell ) could be built over the Empty lot And then container construction
>>> could start inside. It perhaps could be cheaper then retrofitting every
>>> container to be all weather resistant.  It may also be easier to get permits
>>> for getting started with a standard building shell on site. Just and idea
>>> ...
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2012 4:32 PM, "William Saturno" <wsaturno at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I completely understand what you're saying about not being able to do
>>>> everything yourself. That will definitely add to the cost
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps to take a Pageight headed it
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 3, 2012 4:01 PM, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to point out hackerdojo just completed a 250k fund raiser
>>>>> just to get two of their buildings rezoned and bring their current
>>>>> building up to code.
>>>>>
>>>>> That gets them pretty much nothing they didn't already have except a
>>>>> pass from the local city government to use it for people.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are things hackers cannot do without gobs of money.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, William Saturno <wsaturno at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > One great aspect of this idea is that this plan can become modular
>>>>> > (pun intended) and be built by breaking it down into build stages.
>>>>> > Will it be completed for the initial 1.5 investment? Doubtful. But a
>>>>> > "stage 1" of a plan? Perhaps. Being that this thread is made up of
>>>>> > mainly members of hackerspaces, you *know* what we can accomplish on
>>>>> > meager or zero budgets. I also see that first hand at my own space
>>>>> > what we have accomplished by the passion of membership.  Now, using
>>>>> > that same hacker resourcefulness and and 'frugal"ness, I think that if
>>>>> > this idea can reach a critical mass it may have it's own momentum to
>>>>> > move forward on it's own. I'll be investing what I can on Indiegogo
>>>>> > towards it. At the very very least, the challenge has been made to the
>>>>> > status quo.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Bill Saturno
>>>>> > CT Hackerspace
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Ron Bean
>>>>> > <makerspace at rbean.users.panix.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> writes:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>Containers are intended to be used INDOORS.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Wait, what?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I thought they were intended to he hauled around on trucks, trains,
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> cargo ships.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>They need to be covered and raised off the
>>>>> >>>ground.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'd agree with that part.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The project page looks like a bunch of different projects that should
>>>>> >> be
>>>>> >> pursued separately. I don't see the point of making it one huge
>>>>> >> project.
>>>>> >>
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