[hackerspaces] Help me make it happen for 'hackert0wn' on Indiegogo

[Matt Joyce]

http://www.archdaily.com/27386/platoon-kunsthalle-graft-architects/

I'd like to point out a couple things.

Note the foundation, roof, electrical... etc.

Also note that this was built in Seoul South Korea.

Also note that no cost estimate was included.  My guess is they spent
more than 1.5 mil USD equivalent even in Seoul.

This might give you an idea of just how much of an operation this was:

concept design: PLATOON cultural development
architectural consultancy: GRAFT architects + Baik Jiwon
executive architect: U-il Architects & Engineers
prefab engineering: Ace special container, Korea
structural engineering: MIDAS IT, Korea
interior design: URBANTAINER, Korea
main contractor: Hyojung construction & development, Korea
location: 97-22, Nonhyeon-dong, Gangnam-gu,Seoul, Korea

NOTE: Graft assisted Platoon in the architectural development of the
Kunsthalle, which is based on the signature container modules as
developed by Platoon for their first container setup in Berlin. The
optimized arrangement of the containers in Seoul was developed in
brainstorming sessions between Platoon and Graft and developed and
illustrated by Graft.
The interior design finishes and furniture are developed by Platoon
and Baik Jiwon.

-Matt

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Psy Tek <psytek at alphaonelabs.com> wrote:
> We have a lot of work to do on this.  Thank you all for the valuable
> feedback.
>
> Here's a similar project that uses 40 shipping containers:
> http://www.kunsthalle.com/
>
> We've created a uservoice page here http://hackert0wn.uservoice.com to
> itemize the feedback and keep track of it.
> Here is an etherpad if you prefer to jot some notes:
> http://piratepad.net/aZ6OaNoGFx
>
> We also have a Google group where you can see more of the history of the
> hackert0wn project here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/hackert0wn
>
> psytek
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM, William Saturno <wsaturno at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I had a bump in the road and hit send by accident.
>>
>> Anyway, I was Hit with a possible idea When arc light was describing The
>> artist loft he had seen. Perhaps a custom built Simple  Metal shed and roof
>> ( shell ) could be built over the Empty lot And then container construction
>> could start inside. It perhaps could be cheaper then retrofitting every
>> container to be all weather resistant.  It may also be easier to get permits
>> for getting started with a standard building shell on site. Just and idea
>> ...
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2012 4:32 PM, "William Saturno" <wsaturno at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I completely understand what you're saying about not being able to do
>>> everything yourself. That will definitely add to the cost
>>>
>>> Perhaps to take a Pageight headed it
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2012 4:01 PM, "Matt Joyce" <matt at nycresistor.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to point out hackerdojo just completed a 250k fund raiser
>>>> just to get two of their buildings rezoned and bring their current
>>>> building up to code.
>>>>
>>>> That gets them pretty much nothing they didn't already have except a
>>>> pass from the local city government to use it for people.
>>>>
>>>> There are things hackers cannot do without gobs of money.
>>>>
>>>> -Matt
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, William Saturno <wsaturno at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > One great aspect of this idea is that this plan can become modular
>>>> > (pun intended) and be built by breaking it down into build stages.
>>>> > Will it be completed for the initial 1.5 investment? Doubtful. But a
>>>> > "stage 1" of a plan? Perhaps. Being that this thread is made up of
>>>> > mainly members of hackerspaces, you *know* what we can accomplish on
>>>> > meager or zero budgets. I also see that first hand at my own space
>>>> > what we have accomplished by the passion of membership.  Now, using
>>>> > that same hacker resourcefulness and and 'frugal"ness, I think that if
>>>> > this idea can reach a critical mass it may have it's own momentum to
>>>> > move forward on it's own. I'll be investing what I can on Indiegogo
>>>> > towards it. At the very very least, the challenge has been made to the
>>>> > status quo.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bill Saturno
>>>> > CT Hackerspace
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Ron Bean
>>>> > <makerspace at rbean.users.panix.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Matt Joyce <matt at nycresistor.com> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>Containers are intended to be used INDOORS.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Wait, what?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I thought they were intended to he hauled around on trucks, trains,
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> cargo ships.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>They need to be covered and raised off the
>>>> >>>ground.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd agree with that part.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The project page looks like a bunch of different projects that should
>>>> >> be
>>>> >> pursued separately. I don't see the point of making it one huge
>>>> >> project.
>>>> >>
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